Why is carp fishing so popular?

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Yeah that's the things. Venue I have in mind is Bells Mill Specimen Pool - has 100 big Carp over 20lb and that's it. And then there's always Himley Hall and Kingsnordley nearby.... at Himley I wouldn't mind if hook a few Tench. I find a similar thing with Barbel fishing, people highly recommend maggots or casters as bait but I have tried Worm for example, and it just gets smashed with rattles on the tip by small fish with no Barbel.
Sounds like the kind of place where maggots could work. Used with hemp and corn or similar to keep the fish grubbing around?
Even if you catch Tench all day that's not a bad thing. My favourite species 👍
 

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Sounds like the kind of place where maggots could work. Used with hemp and corn or similar to keep the fish grubbing around?
Even if you catch Tench all day that's not a bad thing. My favourite species 👍
Looking forward to some Tench fishing this Spring. 😁

This was the Carp I caught at Himley.... there's some big ones in there.... lots of grass Carp. Had it on maggot feeder Heli Rig 6lb Maxima to 0.18 hooklength and hope to catch a few more this year among the Tench... but it would be a place I'd try for Carp too, lots of Carp anglers there...

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Looking forward to some Tench fishing this Spring. 😁

This was the Carp I caught at Himley.... there's some big ones in there.... lots of grass Carp. Had it on maggot feeder Heli Rig 6lb Maxima to 0.18 hooklength and hope to catch a few more this year among the Tench... but it would be a place I'd try for Carp too, lots of Carp anglers there...

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On commercials, once the carp move in the silvers move out, especially in the margins, so maggots can be used then. It’s not unusual to see small slivers jumping out of the water in the margins when a carp arrives over the feed.
 

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Looking forward to some Tench fishing this Spring. 😁

This was the Carp I caught at Himley.... there's some big ones in there.... lots of grass Carp. Had it on maggot feeder Heli Rig 6lb Maxima to 0.18 hooklength and hope to catch a few more this year among the Tench... but it would be a place I'd try for Carp too, lots of Carp anglers there...

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Yeah I'm really looking forward to catching some Tench too.
Nice fish mate. The heli rig is a good example of a rig that will catch you carp as you prove with the picture mate. Although it's mainly used for Tench and Bream of course it catches carp too. And if you catch a 10lb carp on it for example, why not a 20? Maybe just beef up line and hook size?
I keep meaning to try the inline Korum grub feeders. Like the look of those.
 

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See for me it's not about the size of the carp. I'd rather catch say a 10lb fish thats really nice looking. A nice scaly mirror or a dark old warrior rather than a pasty, bloated, pale looking 30lb fish any day.
I agree I think the best carp are the more natural strain torpedo shaped low double to probably low 20s fish. Look more fish like than the whoppers if that makes sense in that they haven’t lost their shape.


I'd love to catch a decent size carp on waggler
Probably great fun on carp appropriate waggler gear but I can confirm (depending on the definition of decent size) that it’s a bit scary on traditional waggler gear 😂
 

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One thing that does annoy me is the general obsession for carp by those that are either fishing near me, or bank walking. I’ve got no problem with anyone fishing for whatever they want, with whatever tactics they want (providing they’re treating the fish with respect).

But I’m starting to get fed up of being asked how many carp I’ve caught, and when I say that I’m not fishing for them, the shocked disapproval in people’s faces. The assumption is that it you’ve not caught carp then you’re not happy. I had two people walk round and talk about carp at me, today. The opening question always used to be “have you had much? Or are you catching?” More often now it’s - “Have you had any carp?” Had the fishery owner doing it today. He asked me what I’d had so I told him (mixed bag of silvers, that I was quite happy with), and in return I got “never mind lad, you need to fish banded pellet down there to catch the carp”.

Which is fine as advice, and he was only being friendly, but it’s symptomatic of the carp obsession.

I don’t often encounter anglers that are interested in discussing roach or bream for example. To be fair the rivers are the same but with barbel. I enjoy fishing for all species, carp included. I just find it sad that so many don’t appreciate the variety of species we have in the UK.
 

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See for me it's not about the size of the carp. I'd rather catch say a 10lb fish thats really nice looking. A nice scaly mirror or a dark old warrior rather than a pasty, bloated, pale looking 30lb fish any day.
What irritates me is when I see photos of small ish carp, usually posted by young lads with three poker stiff carp rods, big pit reels a pod and three alarms acting as if they are the only one who has ever caught such a fish. Not to blow my own trumpet, but on most waters I fish, I have caught bigger carp on a float rod.
 

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One thing that does annoy me is the general obsession for carp by those that are either fishing near me, or bank walking. I’ve got no problem with anyone fishing for whatever they want, with whatever tactics they want (providing they’re treating the fish with respect).

But I’m starting to get fed up of being asked how many carp I’ve caught, and when I say that I’m not fishing for them, the shocked disapproval in people’s faces. The assumption is that it you’ve not caught carp then you’re not happy. I had two people walk round and talk about carp at me, today. The opening question always used to be “have you had much? Or are you catching?” More often now it’s - “Have you had any carp?” Had the fishery owner doing it today. He asked me what I’d had so I told him (mixed bag of silvers, that I was quite happy with), and in return I got “never mind lad, you need to fish banded pellet down there to catch the carp”.

Which is fine as advice, and he was only being friendly, but it’s symptomatic of the carp obsession.

I don’t often encounter anglers that are interested in discussing roach or bream for example. To be fair the rivers are the same but with barbel. I enjoy fishing for all species, carp included. I just find it sad that so many don’t appreciate the variety of species we have in the UK.
Being asked about carp prospects is a function of the fact that carp fishing now dominates the sport and most certainly the specialist side.

Back in the 80’s and 90’s there were considerably more general specialist anglers and waters holding big bream and tench (for example) were as busy as top carp waters are now. These days the focus is big carp and (as you mentioned) big barbel.

Im a bit of a throwback as I walk round carp waters asking for info on accidental roach, tench and bream catches !
 

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Being asked about carp prospects is a function of the fact that carp fishing now dominates the sport and most certainly the specialist side.

Back in the 80’s and 90’s there were considerably more general specialist anglers and waters holding big bream and tench (for example) were as busy as top carp waters are now. These days the focus is big carp and (as you mentioned) big barbel.

Im a bit of a throwback as I walk round carp waters asking for info on accidental roach, tench and bream catches !
You’d be most welcome to visit my peg for a chat then 👍🏻
 

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One thing that does annoy me is the general obsession for carp by those that are either fishing near me, or bank walking. I’ve got no problem with anyone fishing for whatever they want, with whatever tactics they want (providing they’re treating the fish with respect).

But I’m starting to get fed up of being asked how many carp I’ve caught, and when I say that I’m not fishing for them, the shocked disapproval in people’s faces. The assumption is that it you’ve not caught carp then you’re not happy. I had two people walk round and talk about carp at me, today. The opening question always used to be “have you had much? Or are you catching?” More often now it’s - “Have you had any carp?” Had the fishery owner doing it today. He asked me what I’d had so I told him (mixed bag of silvers, that I was quite happy with), and in return I got “never mind lad, you need to fish banded pellet down there to catch the carp”.

Which is fine as advice, and he was only being friendly, but it’s symptomatic of the carp obsession.

I don’t often encounter anglers that are interested in discussing roach or bream for example. To be fair the rivers are the same but with barbel. I enjoy fishing for all species, carp included. I just find it sad that so many don’t appreciate the variety of species we have in the UK.
Couple a years back I went off to visit my baby brother geoff

A trip across the great river to the land of mondeo man, big hairstyles and handbags

we were off to a local to him, complex of lakes, everything went well on the journey, picked him up and turned up to the fishery

stuffed our faces with an admirable brekkie then popped in the shop for our day ticket and some fresh baits

while in there I asked if I could use a keepnet as it was my intention to fish for the silvers in the chosen lake

the guy near fell over laughing at this suggestion and asked me why, being that the lakes were recognised Carp waters,

I told him I always fish for silvers, he told me I was a weirdo and a looney and yes I could use a net, he checked where we were fishing and said he would come round later on in the day to see how I got on

late afternoon, he turned up and asked how it had fished, well yours truly had had a rather decent day, there was better part of 40 to 50lb in the net made up of roach, bream, perch and pumpkinseeds,

geoff meanwhile had caught relatively decent sized carp and a few bream during the day

the mush still walked away even after seeing the bulging net of silvers, shaking his head and muttering about care in the community
 
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Looking forward to some Tench fishing this Spring. 😁

This was the Carp I caught at Himley.... there's some big ones in there.... lots of grass Carp. Had it on maggot feeder Heli Rig 6lb Maxima to 0.18 hooklength and hope to catch a few more this year among the Tench... but it would be a place I'd try for Carp too, lots of Carp anglers there...

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Nice looking fish -I agree with you @Silver fan 82 the leaner carp are a much more attractive looking fish then the 20+ carp. The monster carp look like they need to get on the slim fast.

I’ve read that Grass carp as some of the hardest fighting carp - is that your experience too?
 

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Nice looking fish -I agree with you @Silver fan 82 the leaner carp are a much more attractive looking fish then the 20+ carp. The monster carp look like they need to get on the slim fast.

I’ve read that Grass carp as some of the hardest fighting carp - is that your experience too?
I’ve caught quite a lot of grass carp , they come in like a wet sack, and then go absolutely ballistic in the landing net, I’ve even had them jump out of the landing net, and also Jump out of the keepnet
 

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Nice looking fish -I agree with you @Silver fan 82 the leaner carp are a much more attractive looking fish then the 20+ carp. The monster carp look like they need to get on the slim fast.

I’ve read that Grass carp as some of the hardest fighting carp - is that your experience too?
I have hardly caught any Grass Carp unfortunately :LOL: I know I've had at least one or two of them from somewhere in the past but can't remember how they fight. Wild Carp are the hardest fighting Carp I've caught.
 

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Nice looking fish -I agree with you @Silver fan 82 the leaner carp are a much more attractive looking fish then the 20+ carp. The monster carp look like they need to get on the slim fast.

I’ve read that Grass carp as some of the hardest fighting carp - is that your experience too?
I've yet to catch a grassy Jim but apparently they give a good fight.
 

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What irritates me is when I see photos of small ish carp, usually posted by young lads with three poker stiff carp rods, big pit reels a pod and three alarms acting as if they are the only one who has ever caught such a fish. Not to blow my own trumpet, but on most waters I fish, I have caught bigger carp on a float rod.
Totally agree. Nothing irratates me more than catching fish with damaged mouths. Usually because the fish has been caught on gear that is too over gunned and probably not played properly or barbed hooks have been used.
On the subject of catching smaller carp on strong gear I wonder if it's new comers to the sport thinking they need this strong gear because that's what they see on TV, social media etc?
IME I've seen more fish with damaged mouths on day ticket waters than club waters?
 

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Totally agree. Nothing irratates me more than catching fish with damaged mouths. Usually because the fish has been caught on gear that is too over gunned and probably not played properly or barbed hooks have been used.
On the subject of catching smaller carp on strong gear I wonder if it's new comers to the sport thinking they need this strong gear because that's what they see on TV, social media etc?
IME I've seen more fish with damaged mouths on day ticket waters than club waters?
I have said words to that effect on this forum before but it seems to fall on deaf ears. I see young lads on carp waters farting about with marker floats, spodding for hours on end and firing leads out beyond 100 yards. Why? Because they have seen someone on tv or youtube doing so and think they have to follow suit.
 

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Sledge hammer to crack a nut comes to mind when you see people using gear like that on small waters for small carp. I don’t generally really care what gear other people use but when it gets to the point that it’s dragging fish in then struggling to unhook them whilst winding up other anglers with bleeping alarms and massive leads crashing about it does grate a bit.

It’s not exclusive to carp fishing though. Been on many a charter boat where some people use gear that looks like it could shift the channel tunnel never mind any fish that they’re likely to catch.
 

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just had a look at the redmire site, £350 for 5 days fishing and £140 for the weekend. Apparently it’s extremely difficult to book such is the demand..
Personally I think it’s qute good value for a weeks fishing at what is arguably the premier carp fishing venue. However I may be biased as i have in the past paid some hefty costs for trout and salmon fishing. Not forgetting also some expensive offshore fishing in Florida, worth ever penny.
That’s really excellent value for such an iconic venue. I would have expected it to cost much more.
 

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I have said words to that effect on this forum before but it seems to fall on deaf ears. I see young lads on carp waters farting about with marker floats, spodding for hours on end and firing leads out beyond 100 yards. Why? Because they have seen someone on tv or youtube doing so and think they have to follow suit.
Yeah fair enough on some waters that is the way to go but not on commercials. I always remember fishing a commie once when up rocked a Danny Fairbrass wannabe, massive lead and casts to the horizon when I gaurentee there would have been some decent carp just under his feet.
 

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My journey was....

Float fishing in the margins for Tench and Roach on my local club pond from the age of 7 and strapping a rod and landing net on my bike and going to the Trent sometimes.

Then going on my own to fish the lakes in my area.

Then the method feeder was all the rage.

And so on to Commercials and a bit of match fishing.

And now mostly on the Trent with the occasional visit to a commie.

We live in a want it now generation and Carp fishing is on the telly so much. Combine this with the fact a few mates enjoy staying out overnight in a safe lake environment, with the chance to catch a big 'un and it's a no brainer as to why it's so popular.
 
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