Who makes Kamasan hooks?

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From what I can tell they're owned by Drennan? Does this mean Drennan make Kamasan hooks?

Reason I ask, I've always used Kamasans but recently been experimenting with Drennan hooks and like them so thinking of using them a lot more. My tackle shop sells more Kamasan so it would mean buying them online, but maybe worth it if I like the hook. The Wide Gape Carp in smaller sizes have been my go to for maggot on the feeder this winter.
 

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From what I can tell they're owned by Drennan? Does this mean Drennan make Kamasan hooks?

Reason I ask, I've always used Kamasans but recently been experimenting with Drennan hooks and like them so thinking of using them a lot more. My tackle shop sells more Kamasan so it would mean buying them online, but maybe worth it if I like the hook. The Wide Gape Carp in smaller sizes have been my go to for maggot on the feeder this winter.

The Kamasan brand is owned by Drennan. That's not the same as saying Drennan make Kamasan hooks (or vice versa). It's very unlikely that Drennan, or Kamasan, make any hooks. Chances are that they are made by a third party, for either brand, and repackaged.
 

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Makes sense. So probably made in China or somewhere? They are very different hooks so the different branding makes sense too.

Gamakatsu are made in Japan if I'm right? Sounds good for quality.

I'm going to be trying the Drennan Super Specialist for Tench come Spring. Remember being impressed with them when I tried them a while back. Starting to think I prefer Drennans to trusty Kamasans.
 

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From what I can tell they're owned by Drennan? Does this mean Drennan make Kamasan hooks?

Reason I ask, I've always used Kamasans but recently been experimenting with Drennan hooks and like them so thinking of using them a lot more. My tackle shop sells more Kamasan so it would mean buying them online, but maybe worth it if I like the hook. The Wide Gape Carp in smaller sizes have been my go to for maggot on the feeder this winter.
Daiichi in Japan make them I've just read on another site hope that's correct
 

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I do like the drennan silver fish range and use them a lot but probably use kamasan b911 and b611 just as much. I use the hook to nylon versions of both and I find the Kamasans have more combinations of hook sizes and line strengths than drennan.
 

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I do like the drennan silver fish range and use them a lot but probably use kamasan b911 and b611 just as much. I use the hook to nylon versions of both and I find the Kamasans have more combinations of hook sizes and line strengths than drennan.

B911's are the only hook I use, apart from the Kamasan Animal but I tie my own.
 

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I use Drennan wide gape carp for pole pellet fishing in the Summer, it's quite heavy gauged and big gaped so not an ideal maggot hook plus it's a spade end so I wouldn't use it on a feeder setup myself, a B911 eyed would be more suitable for maggot fishing in winter.
I wouldn't get too caught up in brand loyalty either, certain hooks from certain manufacturers are just good hooks, Colmic 501 springs to mind, I use the Drennan, 911s for winter, PR36 for summer waggler and bomb fishing.
Drennan super specialist is also a heavy gauged hook, I use the barbless versions for Barbel fishing, for tench fishing you could get away with something lighter I think.
 

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I only use eyed hooks for hair rigs. Any reason an eyed is better for feeder?

They are heavy gauge but I've found them to be ok in smaller sizes as very sharp.
 

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I've heard that elsewhere too so there's probably something in it. I like B911s, and they probably are the more usual maggot hook. The Drennans just have a quality about them I'll probably use in summer too.

Preston hooks I used for my first Barbel sessions this year, ready tied hair rigs to 8lb line, I forget the model but I think PR36, and had no problem with them.
 

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In terms of Kamasan I get b911s in 18 to 2lb 12oz and b611s in 18 to 2lb 4 oz both for float fishing then b911s in 16 to 3lb 6oz and 14 to 4lb for feeder fishing.

For drennan I get silver fish maggot in 18 to 2lb and silverfish pellet in 18 to 2lb 8oz both for float fishing, silverfish pellet in 16 to 3lb for both float and feeder fishing, silver fish pellet in 14 to 3lb 8oz for feeder fishing and wide gape pellet in 16 to 3lb oz and 14 to 4lb both for feeder fishing.

I’ll occasionally use 12s to 5lb in both brands but generally if I go stronger than 4lb and bigger than a 14 I’ll go eyed and tie my own.

Bait wise I’ll put just about anything on any of them within reason.
 

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I prefer to tie my own as can alter the strength of the hooklength nice and easy for the same size hook.

I'll probably start trying the Super Specialist as a Chub hook. Probably my most tied are size 12 and 14 B911s to 7lb line due to the weir I fish being a snag pit. I always thought 7lb was a bit on the heavy side for Chub but I've got a spool a Garbo Line in 7lb and it's done the trick, I've almost got through 100m spool of it just for hooklengths this year, but still looking for the perfect hook to match with it, think the Super Specialist will do it.

Has got me thinking the wide gape carp probably is a bit too heavy gauge for being a traditional winter maggot hook, but size 18 and 20 means I can still catch silvers on it with ease, had loads of micro roach, but also easily handle F1s or a lump if I do hook one. You can tell how sharp they are by how easy a maggot goes on.
 

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I prefer to tie my own as can alter the strength of the hooklength nice and easy for the same size hook.

I'll probably start trying the Super Specialist as a Chub hook. Probably my most tied are size 12 and 14 B911s to 7lb line due to the weir I fish being a snag pit. I always thought 7lb was a bit on the heavy side for Chub but I've got a spool a Garbo Line in 7lb and it's done the trick, I've almost got through 100m spool of it just for hooklengths this year, but still looking for the perfect hook to match with it, think the Super Specialist will do it.

Has got me thinking the wide gape carp probably is a bit too heavy gauge for being a traditional winter maggot hook, but size 18 and 20 means I can still catch silvers on it with ease, had loads of micro roach, but also easily handle F1s or a lump if I do hook one. You can tell how sharp they are by how easy a maggot goes on.

Depends how big the chub go, unless it's real hit and hold for 6lb+, I'd be more inclined to use Drennan specimen or superspades. For silvers my choice is usually Drennan carbon match or red maggot, I also quite like the Guru MWG or MWGB , but they do seem to be oversize, so that a Guru 14 is more like a normal 12, they are strong and very sharp though
 

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Chub I've had to 5lb from there.

Bit of a story behind why I started using 7lb line. Not having had that much experience with Chub before, I kept thinking they were biting through the line with those teeth they have. After the one session where it kept happening, no snap just a plain bite through it turned out to be little jack pike that were doing it. So whether or not it was them all along I don't know but I trust the 7lb Garbo Line a lot more than say 5lb Preston Reflo which I was using before.

Will have to experiment with hooks for the Chub. A problem I have is I tend to always buy whats available in the tackle shop, which despite being well stocked with most things, only seems to have Kamasan hooks.
 

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I have very little experience of decent sized chub, I’ve literally only caught 2 over 4lb, but they don’t seem to pull that hard compared to a carp or barbel of equal size so I have no problem using the same hooks and lines as I do for other silverfish. The don’t tend to straighten or break at all unless you get an around a double figure fish and even then they only do if you pull too hard.
 

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Yeah Chub I would say are medium fighting strength fish. They tend to have an initial burst of energy then give up in this weir pool. So I'm probably overgunned for them but have had no issues with them being spooked by the line on the feeder anyway. I'm going to lighten up a bit for them when I try the Chubber float, although they are reasonable sized fish averaging 3 to 4lb.
 

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Yeah unless you are deliberately fishing for say 7-8lb plus fish I personally don’t think you ever need more than 4lb line for float fishing.
 

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I've gone down to 0.10 hooklengths for recent feeder work on F1 commercials now it's cold. Not like me to usually fish heavy really, I mean I had my first canal chub on a 0.10 hooklength and number 4 elastic the other day! I just found a happy use for this spool of Garbo line I got. :) I put it down to the snags there and water usually being quite coloured/chub ravenous I can get away with it.
 

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B911's are the only hook I use, apart from the Kamasan Animal but I tie my own.
The problem that i've found with the 'animal'hooks is how big they are. On a fishery with a size limit of a 12 you have to use a 14 or even a 16 animal to comply:( other than that they are, imo, a great hook.
 
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