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JohnTynan

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I'm looking for a good whip waggler. I generally use the Sensas Guillaume which seems fine but when conditions are a bit rough I think I need to start using a waggler set up and sink the line. Mostly stillwater fishing, anywhere from 6in to 3ft deep, using 4-5m whips.

I know trial and effort goes a long way in these things but I would like to start off as close to 'right' as I can, if possible.

There are a few dedicated whip wagglers here: http://www.benwick-sports.co.uk/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=whip+waggler&submit_search=Search
Perhaps the more experienced of you will have opinions on some of those.

I was also reading about the Derek Skinner whip waggler here. The wire stems adding stability seems to make sense.
Those Image floats used can no longer be found but these look similar (to my eyes) and I'm guessing would do?

What about these? They seem to be dedicated to the job. Would they be as stable as the modified wire stemmed floats above?


I know some people use wagglers on the whip all of the time but I will only be using them in a bit of a chop. So I suppose stability and casting (whipping) in the wind are my priorities.


Any help, opinions or past experiences greatly appreciated. [:T]
 

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I used to use the Image canal wagglers,don't think you can get them now. Out of the ones you've linked to I'd use the silverlite whip wagglers. Top left of the page in your first link.
 

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Originally posted by smiffy

I used to use the Image canal wagglers,don't think you can get them now. Out of the ones you've linked to I'd use the silverlite whip wagglers. Top left of the page in your first link.
Thanks smiffy.

Would the max size of 0.6g on those be a bit light on a 5m whip when the wind is up?
 

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Originally posted by JohnTynan

Originally posted by smiffy

I used to use the Image canal wagglers,don't think you can get them now. Out of the ones you've linked to I'd use the silverlite whip wagglers. Top left of the page in your first link.
Thanks smiffy.

Would the max size of 0.6g on those be a bit light on a 5m whip when the wind is up?
If your whip is fine with overhead casts then .6 should be ok. To be honest,it's mainly overhead when there's a bit of a blow.
At 5m it may be worth getting some 1g insert wagglers though. Can be a bit awkward casting at 5m+
 
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John....I use Drennan Glow Tip wagglers.....they come in various sizes up to 2g.
 

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I used to do a lot of whip waggler fishing on the continent and I used the Drennan clear insert canal wagglers, they did ones with a very fine bristle that were perfect. Not sure they sell them any more.
Those Benwick Silverlite ones look the closest you will get.
 

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I use old stillwater blues as I find these perfect for the whip, relatively stable with a fine sensitive tip, looking at the Benwick page the closest looks to be the Sensas Stephane but really until you fish with them you don't really know, my advice would be to initially buy a small selection of the ones that 'look right' then try them out to find out which suits best
 

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Take a look at these.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pesca-Limited-7-Lake-Lightstick-Fishing-Float-2015-New-10pcs-set-Assorted-Fishing-Bobbers-Slip-Drift/32610638407.html?spm=2114.01010108.3.328.rjvOdd&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_436_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10119_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10179_10181_10037_10183_10182_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10123_10120-10120,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=e4931768-f946-4a30-8f25-bb13d09ef8b3&algo_expid=445874c6-1094-4be5-9a46-54b82b83697e-38&algo_pvid=445874c6-1094-4be5-9a46-54b82b83697e
Don't be put off by the cost as they do work very well. I use them in conjunction with these
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pesca-Limited-7-Lake-Lightstick-Fishing-Float-2015-New-10pcs-set-Assorted-Fishing-Bobbers-Slip-Drift/32610638407.html?spm=2114.01010108.3.328.rjvOdd&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_436_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10119_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10179_10181_10037_10183_10182_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10123_10120-10120,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=e4931768-f946-4a30-8f25-bb13d09ef8b3&algo_expid=445874c6-1094-4be5-9a46-54b82b83697e-38&algo_pvid=445874c6-1094-4be5-9a46-54b82b83697e
 

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Mick basset does some good ones, I've got a few of his. As mentioned above the drennan glow tip antenna floats are good for this to.
 

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Thanks all. Very helpful as usual. I was going to stock up on one kind but I think I'll get a few and see how I go.


Regarding the floats, does the general opinion agree with the 0.1g per meter guideline?
 

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Originally posted by JohnTynan

Thanks all. Very helpful as usual. I was going to stock up on one kind but I think I'll get a few and see how I go.


Regarding the floats, does the general opinion agree with the 0.1g per meter guideline?
I'm not one for using elasticated whips so,for me,they are all about speed. Setting up high competition for food is the priority.
If that all comes together then I often fish quite a lot more than the 0.1 per metre. The fish ain't worried about my presentation,they just want to beat their neighbour to the bait,in theory[:T]
The quicker I can get in and out,and still get bites,the better. As soon as I start waiting for bites the pole comes out because I now need the better presentation.
 

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Originally posted by Brian the Fish

Drennan Glow Tip wagglers for me too.[:T]
And me - the smallest one for up to 5 or 6m and the next size up for 8m

Simon
 

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http://www.benwick-sports.co.uk/wagglers/655-sensas-jimmy-waggler.html
 

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Originally posted by bign

http://www.benwick-sports.co.uk/wagglers/655-sensas-jimmy-waggler.html

They look good too.....pity about the name but they look as if they'd do a good job....and part-loaded!
 

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Originally posted by frankg

Originally posted by bign

http://www.benwick-sports.co.uk/wagglers/655-sensas-jimmy-waggler.html

They look good too.....pity about the name but they look as if they'd do a good job....and part-loaded!
 

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I prefer small straight without a body as they make less disturbance when they enter the water and you don't need the extra shotting they take on a whip in shallow water.
 

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Just use a .75/1/1.5/2g bodied pole float turned upside down and add a short piece of 1mm hollow plastic bristle to the stem top or just paint it up.

You can then use a link of mono to fasten the float to the main line using a sliding knot and to the float bristle with a loop and piece of silicone. This works better than fastening it using a float adapter or locking it with shot as you are striking direct to the bulk/fish rather than through the float first. Its a very sensitive set up and works perfectly well when its blowing a bit.
 

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Originally posted by blue orfe

I prefer small straight without a body as they make less disturbance when they enter the water and you don't need the extra shotting they take on a whip in shallow water.

Me too...the drennan glow tip are slimmer and really nice floats....not straight but streamlined.
 
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