which part of this do you NOT understand?

Andy the grandad

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On Monday the government announced that we should work from home if we can, No unnecessary traveling and stay away from pubs etc. also the over 70's and those with chronic illnesses to self isolate or be "shielded" Then schools were to close and only be open to the children of key workers. then they closed all the pubs etc because some people were still going. Then they tried to ensure that most of the population would get paid at least 80% of their wages to avoid unemployment and hardship.

What happened: shops emptied of food, everyone still driving around, some peoples ideas of key workers ( my wife works in a school so I know) "I do a saturday evening shift in a hospital so my child can come to school can't they?" Education secretary said about 10 % of children would be eligible. My wifes primary school 700 plus children, so far 90 signed up for their children to stay in school, do the math, more to come monday. Today the seaside resorts full of people, thousands parked by Snowdon going for a walk, It's like a bank holiday. Some people complaining on here because fisheries are or maybe closing.

PEOPLE ARE DYING!!!

GET A GRIP BRITAIN!!!

Oh and just in case you were wondering, I have four chronic illnesses so I am shielding for 12 weeks, My 85 year old mother lives on her own does not drive or have the internet.
I was self employed as a supply teacher, now, no job had to sign on the dole for the first time in decades. feeling like s**t mentally and wondering if there is any hope for those who will be affected by this, because most people simply don't give a s**t about anyone else.

Sorry if this upsets people with my comments but tough.
 

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I agree lots of people have been very stupid and unfortunately I think they’ll continue to be so whilst the numbers infected and dying are so low not that it’s an excuse. I suspect it’ll be too late by the time they get it. The panic buying and socialising in non family groups is an absolute disgrace in my opinion.

That said I see no harm in family that live together going for a drive, a country walk or our cases fishing a sparsely populated water. In each of those cases there is really no need to get remotely close enough to another person to cause any risks, for example I’m just as close to my neighbours at home whilst in the garden as I ever would be to anyone down the canal. The reality is that the vast majority of people wont be directly effected or if effected not badly so as long as they are sensible I think it only fair that they can exercise a safe level of freedom. Life does go on after all and people’s mental wellbeing should also be considered. The thought of potentially not seeing my living grandparents for months let alone only 5 of us being allowed to go to my recently departed grandmothers funeral is tough enough let alone with the thought of all freedoms being taken away even if some are perfectly safe.
 

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Spot on Andy, wife works for the council and is placed in schools to assist with kids with special needs, the list of key worker criteria is huge,
she said exactly the same the schools will be almost full.
 

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I think that's the difference of living in a heavy populated area or, like me, in a rural area. 8 have been tested round here, all are negative. We have a centre specially set up for the elderly to socialise for a couple of hours a day which my good lady helps out at. All well and good you're thinking. Wrong. The council have decided to close the centre after only 2 weeks. The pubs and clubs are under forced closure, the cafe here has been closed for the duration (until they are told to re-open), with the centre closed, they have now nowhere to go to sort out any problems regarding help etc. It's like they've been locked in a cupboard and forgotten about.
Yet, through all of this, most of those go fishing and have been given the O.K. to fish the clubs O.A.P and disabled match every Tuesday. How is this helping to sort out any repairs that need doing to the houses (the houses here belong to a housing association), or sort out any problems with benefits etc.?
It's also giving conflicting information, first they were told to stay indoors, yet can go fish the Tuesday matches, no wonder they're in a state of confusion.
 

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From what I've seen and read about all of this, if the elderly want to be around to continue fishing after this has blown over, they need to self isolate.

The virus by all accounts doesn't ask permission before infecting someone, it doesn't stick to any guidelines regarding who it kills or not, it's like pot luck to some degree if you get it severe or mild. If you are in the high-risk groups and get it severe, it is a far from pleasant experience and can be life threatening.
 

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Good post Andy. I think its just creeping up on some people what this is actually all about and what we should/shouldn't do.
Whatever and whenever the outcome, this will affect how people live and go about their lives for many years. It will be in everyones psyche. Take care.
 

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I think it’ll be taken out of our hands within the next day or so with a total lockdown. Too many people in this country don’t seem to have much going on between the ears, people are still going to shopping centres, the sea fronts are busier than normal, Snowdon is rammed with people, it’s insane. The sooner Boris orders a lockdown with the army & police enforcing it, the better
 

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Just a couple of extracts from a poster on here

Can't believe all the hype this virus is getting...

The warmer weather will cure all...just be patient
 

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People ,and I am afraid there are a lot of them are selfish and I am one of them only see what they want to,most will see this as a "only the old and frail need worry about it situation"
what follows is all taken from other peoples posts,

Chemist friend of mine.
"My thoughts are these: First thing to say is every individual should do all they can to keep themselves safe. But more than that we all have a responsibility to protect each other by not knowingly exposing anyone else to covid-19. Through work I have heard of so many people showing some or all symptoms around the country, I really do think this is much bigger than we all suppose. "

Girley gossip site (don't ask)

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It’s incredibly frustrating to hear people say ‘Ah, just crack on as normal, all a big fuss over nothing, it will pass soon’. It will pass over but until then, the NHS critical care units have to deal with a huge influx of patients with limited beds. We *will definitely not* be able to treat everyone that gets sick.

The below message is from a consultant in ITU and probably one of the most sensible things I’ve read. This isn’t just going to affect the lives of people with the virus.

Wash your hands, avoid elderly and vulnerable people (if possible) & stop socialising. To help the NHS and prevent infections.

“I’m an intensive care specialist in a small city.

Coronavirus isn’t just like the flu, but it’s only really very dangerous to the elderly or the already unwell. Quite a lot of people in their 80s will die, but most of the rest of us will probably be okay.

If you’re in your 70s and you get Coronavirus, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 60s and you have a heart attack, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

ps.not related to above posted while i was sorting this post out.

If you’re in your 50s and need bowel cancer surgery, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 40s and have a bad car accident, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 30s and have terrible pre-eclampsia as a complication of pregnancy, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

If you’re in your 20s and have a bad reaction to a party drug, you’ve got a really good chance of survival. If I’ve got a bed for you.

I have 7 beds equipped with life support machines. We have a plan to increase to about 25. Getting more isn’t a matter of more equipment or more money, that bit is easy. There are not enough skilled staff, even if we all work double shifts every day for six months (and we probably will).

If 50% of my city gets infected, that’s 75,000 people. If 5% of them need life support (which is the estimate), that’s 3750 people. For 25 beds.

And then I might not have a bed for you.

So it’s up to you to flatten the curve.it will affect every one Wash your hands. Stay home.”

ps.not related to above,posted while i was sorting this post out
 

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Must be getting really serious now - we are posting in bold letters.
Capitals and we are in really deep s**t :)
(to be taken light heartedly)
 

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Ha Ha, yes its because the sites they are copied from are usually white print on a red background or similar so they are not easy to copy, when you remove the background the print shows up as a light grey even when copied as black, easiest way of making them visible is to make them bold that seems to do the trick ,wish I knew what I was doing.lol. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Well, you will suddenly realise what twats some people are - acting irresponsibly. Next door neigbour who went out once is last 2 weeks, to chemist and doctors has been confirmed with it, We have been locked down, because we went around on an urgent call becuase she was going unconciuous as to what we though was a urine infection - and I'm starting to feel slightly rough. Next door neighbour other side to us, whose work neccessiated a lot of face to face meetings has been telephoned diagnosed with it. (doctor will not come out - he is not yet gasping for air !)

So please please heed the warnings and try to minimise contact to the absolute minimum, not just for your sake but those who you put at risk otherwise.
 

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Some employers aren't helping. We have been sent home on full pay, possibly until September, to prepare work. Some shops in our market place, like Boots are operating a one in one out system, so staff and customers can distance themselves. My wife's bank on the other hand is letting everyone in and still has one of the two members of staff working face to face in the banking hall. Which to me is unacceptable.
 

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This is disgusting www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/coronavirus-skegness-covid-19-boris-3971785#source=push

The local population round here are mainly elderly and would suffer badly now due to these "I'm all right Jack" head in sand people. I know people want to get out in sun but likes of Marilyn who wants to go out to Skegness but have told her she has got to stay in for three weeks at least. If weather is nice we might get scooters out for a drive down front tomorrow so she can have a couple of hours in fresh air without being near to people. Council and others have condemned cafes, arcades and visitors doing this against Boris's announcment on Friday. I see Wales was busy as well...dick heads.
As Lincolnshire is largest county with fewest people health care is spread out and could not cater for any visitors stricken down with virus.
 

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Just been out in the garden, the people a few doors down, who have several large gatherings a year, seem to have a house/conservatory/garden full of people and are having a party!
 

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It's madness and the ones partying now will be the first ones panicking when one of their group catches it
 
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