'Venue experts'

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I think we probably all know the sort, the type that come round every time you fish a place and chat to you, giving you tips on how it fishes and recounting stories of what they've caught. Personally, I love chatting to people on the bank and will always listen, taking in what they're saying. It can be a good way about learning things about a fishery if you're not used to fishing it. Although, I think maybe not everyone is so welcoming to getting advice and just want to fish? What do you think about these people, maybe you're one of them, and do you chat to them or gently ignore them and carry on fishing?
 

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Don’t very often get them most places I fish tbh but like you I’m generally quite happy to speak to most people on the bank
 

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It's a brilliant way of exploring new venues as long as they're not skylining your peg or something. Can't really beat local knowledge even if at first it doesn't sound right.
 

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Tbh most people that speak to me when I’m fishing are bailiffs or non anglers, obviously is the odd angler but the conversations with them are far fewer than the aforementioned people.
 

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My favourites are the ones who will always tell you what you’re doing won’t work, just as the float goes under it the top wraps round with another clonking good fish.
Been told that loads of times
NON has it all the time 😂😂
 

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Its funny as I class a venue expert as somebody who specialises on one venue and rarely anywhere else often fishing there 2-4 times a week. Very difficult to beat in many cases and knows every peg inside out. In years gone past we'd fish six different venues in 6 weeks hence why we had good all round anglers rather than venue and method experts.
 

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Fished a lake in Milton Keynes once. I was blanking when dog walker stopped for a chat. "What the regulars do is fish 18 inches overdepth with the smallest maggot they can find in their tub". 18 inches overdepth? "Yeah right" I thought. After blanking a bit longer I followed he advice and started to catch skimmers.

You never should dismiss any advice. It might just be right.
 

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Its funny as I class a venue expert as somebody who specialises on one venue and rarely anywhere else often fishing there 2-4 times a week. Very difficult to beat in many cases and knows every peg inside out. In years gone past we'd fish six different venues in 6 weeks hence why we had good all round anglers rather than venue and method experts.
I think Zerkalo is talking about the people who think they are venue experts. Most annoying to those of us that are.

Been told that loads of times
NON has it all the time 😂😂
Fishing Castle Ashby's Brickyard pond one day in a club match when a clubmate told me I was doing it all wrong (Banjo feeder/corn on the hook). Ten minutes later I was landing a 13lb carp.

As you know, I do everything wrong. You even told me the dacrons I was using (made by a fellow MDr) were too long. I still catch fish with them. Oh, and you said I don't have enough line from my rod tip when casting a feeder. Tip still goes round.
 

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I know one club regular. who comes on a particular water. He seems to only fish one peg. If some one is on that peg. He tells them how good a day he had on it last time. Then go's home. He will not pick another peg to fish.
Is he a Maggotdrowner by any chance ? :unsure:😉
 

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Its funny as I class a venue expert as somebody who specialises on one venue and rarely anywhere else often fishing there 2-4 times a week. Very difficult to beat in many cases and knows every peg inside out. In years gone past we'd fish six different venues in 6 weeks hence why we had good all round anglers rather than venue and method experts.
^^^ this

I guess that is venue experts vs "venue experts" ... in Zerkalo's parlance the latter being very much "so-called".
 

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You can't beat advice from genuine venue experts. The trouble comes when you encounter venue experts that just think they are. However, pretty good advice can be left open to ridicule by a new/different approach or just angling happenstance. If anyone is daft enough to talk in absolutes about angling, they are liable to appear stupid once in a while. Even decent anglers with plenty of knowledge of a venue can fall victim at times. Lots of anglers have an understandable propensity to stick to pegs and methods that have worked well for them on particular waters. They may not have tried alternative methods or pegs. Some of more elderly ones may never even have fished for years. It's also worth considering that some of them may well be lonely as hell and rather sad that their angling exploits go little further than talking to random strangers on the bank.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and even the odd expert that puts their foot in it probably doesn't deserve quite as much ridicule as some dish out. If people persist in hammering every little faux pas that someone giving free advice might make, no one, other than the really thick skinned/indifferent know alls, will ever profer any help at all. Things would be different if folk were charging for advice given. Be careful what you wish for when hammering the well intentioned. As long as they don't expect me to stop fishing to talk, I'm happy to tolerate just about anyone that wants to chat about fishing. I'm less keen on the skyliners, dog off lead types and the very loud. Anyone else is welcome, but that doesn't mean that I'll take much notice of their advice. I'm quite capable of taking the wheat from the chaff, but you have to listen to know if there is any wheat to sort.
 

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In my experience it’s very easy to sort the people that know what their talking about from the guys that only catch when they’re on their own. I’ll always give bankwalkers an ear because, apart from their own exploits, they may have seen someone doing well elsewhere on the same water.
I can also be a bit of a venue expert😉. I always want anglers to catch and try and be discreet when giving anglers advice. I try and suggest what they could do to improve their day rather than tell them. I try and tell them what the fish want rather than what they should do to catch them. I’ll always fit it in with a bit of bankside banter.
The exception being matchfishing when you would tell your neighbour “ You‘ll catch **** all fishing like that”
 

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I think we probably all know the sort, the type that come round every time you fish a place and chat to you, giving you tips on how it fishes and recounting stories of what they've caught. Personally, I love chatting to people on the bank and will always listen, taking in what they're saying. It can be a good way about learning things about a fishery if you're not used to fishing it. Although, I think maybe not everyone is so welcoming to getting advice and just want to fish? What do you think about these people, maybe you're one of them, and do you chat to them or gently ignore them and carry on fishing?
Ignore .,.. same as other angler's asking advice and ramblers/dogwalkers saying 'Caught anything?' ... pain the backsides!!

Luckily, I have hearing aids which I turn off - esp first thing in the morning as those pesky birds kick off their dawn chorus - never have a shotgun when needed!!!

Best 'venue expert' I've come across was a canal boat dweller ... saw me luring for zander on the canal and said "Won't catch anything, C&RT netted 'em all out ... took all the other fish out too ... not a fish in here at all nowadays.." ..... then 10-15 minutes later he's saying when he throws bread, etc in from the back of the boat of an evening the water turns black with roach which then get harried by the zander..... WTF??? LOL
 
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I know one club regular. who comes on a particular water. He seems to only fish one peg. If some one is on that peg. He tells them how good a day he had on it last time. Then go's home. He will not pick another peg to fish.
I think I've met him!
 

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It's a brilliant way of exploring new venues as long as they're not skylining your peg or something. Can't really beat local knowledge even if at first it doesn't sound right.
That sounds exactly like when I met you 😂😂😂🤔🤔, that's it, I'm not telling you to fish meat anymore.
 

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I once had venue expert like the venue expert Zerkalo is referring to spoil a match at a new venue I was fishing, insisting I was fishing the peg wrong and in the wrong place. I asked him who he thought he was and he told me he was the owner :rolleyes:

He was that much of a pain I asked him to leave my peg and bother somebody else which he wan't happy with. Come the scales I won the match comfortably but told him I wouldn't be returning.

Two weeks later apparently he fell in assisted by somebody he's upset :ROFLMAO: And no it wasn't me.
 

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I once had venue expert like the venue expert Zerkalo is referring to spoil a match at a new venue I was fishing, insisting I was fishing the peg wrong and in the wrong place. I asked him who he thought he was and he told me he was the owner :rolleyes:

He was that much of a pain I asked him to leave my peg and bother somebody else which he wan't happy with. Come the scales I won the match comfortably but told him I wouldn't be returning.

Two weeks later apparently he fell in assisted by somebody he's upset :ROFLMAO: And no it wasn't me.
Ahhhhh, So that's why you ain't fishing Viaduct anymore!:LOL::ROFLMAO:
 
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