Trent Barbel Disaster....A Lesson To All

solwood

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Matt the learning is definitely use a baitrunner and make sure its engaged. You took a chance entering the water, one I would not have done.

As for Barbless hooks I will always use them unless rules of the venue dictate otherwise

Both clubs I am a member of, Anglers Paradise and Docklow Pools all insist on barbless they are the venues I fish
 

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Well it is dig, but dig away.

My opinion on trebles for Perch is explained in that thread, and in theory it hasn't really changed -
plus you're comparing thoughts / theory / ideas to something which actually happened, if that was a valid way of looking at things then we would all...
ahh F it, whatever mate.
Thats the best bite I have had in weeks! Almost dragged the rod in ?? ?
 

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Fish safety was my concern as soon as I lost the rod....I genuinely wasn't bothered about losing my rod money wise etc. Was happy I got out safe but my thoughts soon switched to the fish, hence the rough night's kip.

Regarding the bait runner issue......yes it's a safer and a better option, but like I said, I have never had any issues as I sit on my rods, not 5 meters away on the bank top so it's never been an issue if set up correctly like many of the match anglers on the stretch. It's something i will consider changing to from now on.

I still can't get my head around the fact it was the upstream rod that just pulled the lot in downstream in an instant. This was a non tidal stretch for the record.

A story from yesterday......

Having been an angler for over 35 years now, I thought I knew what I was doing. Trent Barbelling is something I do when conditions are reasonable, and I am under no illusions as to the power of these Trent fish, but yesterday was something else, and somewhat frightening and upsetting in equal measures.

Yesterday, I took this for granted, in my excitement to "get set up" I failed to put the time in to ensure my tripod was properly secure. Now for those who fish the Trent around Newark will know that many pegs have very large flat stone slabs making securing your tripod somewhat more difficult, this is not something new for me as previously there have been no issues.

This time was different. I failed to put a sturdy enough angle into the two front legs either, resulting in a flimsy set up at best.

I was fishing with 2 Barbel rods and was stood at the side of my rods (I always sit/stand right on my rods as I do not fish with bait runners.......I can't get rid of that "match style" of feeder fishing just yet. So, with both clutches set loosely as usual, to give me that couple of seconds insurance on any take, I wait with excitement as the river had a lovely bit of colour to it.

One hour into the session, I was stood at the side of my rods...inches away in fact, when out of nowhere, the whole lot toppled forward and into the Trent within 2 seconds....the type of take when you think you have been wiped out by a speedboat or something. No boats were in sight and in the Trent went 2 rods and a tripod. I could not quite compute what the hell had happened so in I went up to my knees.....I could not go any further as it was pushing through and it drops off very quickly and very dangerously. I managed to retrieve in seconds the tripod and one rod which was at full stretch. Th other rod was already 5 meters out and travelling UPSTREAM!

I tried to cast over the line/rod several times after I had wound in the other rod, but the rod that was going upstream soon sank into the depths never to be seen again. I sat there, wet through, trying to work out what had happened. It was the upstream rod that went over, but the interesting part was that the whole lot fell over downstream from left to right. It took me a while to register the situation as I had thought in my shock that the downstream rod had gone over and pulled the lot in but this was not the case.

Could a Barbel possibly pick a bait up from upstream and charge so fast downstream and pull the lot in, even before the rod tip has bounced back to register a drop back pick up for example? And then possibly turn again and pull the rod upstream??????

I have had a bit of a sleepless night worrying about a fish potentially being in difficulty, and I can only console myself with the fact that I do fish lighter hook lengths and that I use a running lead set up, but still.....

This has never happened before to me using this set up as the bites, although vicious at times, have always seen me in control of the rods due to the tripod being secure and the reels set nice and loose, like Bream fishing on the Trent for example.

So, the point of the story is to never under estimate the power of Trent Barbel, and ensure your set up, whatever that may be, is secure. Never leave those rods unattended, even if you use bait runners.

I have a renewed respect for these incredible fish. I know I'm not the first, and certainly won't be the last to lose a rod to the Trent's monsters, but be careful out there folks, and remember, most of all, respect the Trent.....do not put yourself at risk to save a bit of kit by going into the river, especially as the winter floods are just around the corner.

Stay safe folks, and keep your eyes open for a Korum Barbel rod!
Firstly - what a good thing you stopped yourself short of chasing all the way in after your gear.
I often wear a lifejacket for jumping onto cormorants and the like (don't like it up 'em Mr Mainwaring!)
Match angling doesn't allow more than one rod at once.
I reckon it should be prohibited outright.
Just sayin'
 

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Matt, that was a sad story ( loosing your gear ) but you must be thankful that you are here to tell the tale. East Stoke by any chance ?
 

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Quite a few match and general coarse anglers seem to believe that baitrunners are the exclusive domain of those that go fishing to sleep and/or socialise away from their rods. You've now found out to your cost, and possibly the cost of a fish, that it isn't necessarily the case. The one critical thing about a baitrunner reel is that it doesn't have to be used in baitrunner mode in every situation.
I touch leger for Barbel using just one rod and I use a baitrunner reel for this too, I never use the baitrunning feature when my bait is actually in the water but I find it invaluable when I’m setting the rod up, or carrying my catch to the unhooking mat, or when I’m rebating my hook etc..

I just can’t understand why some anglers think that a baitrunner is only for the Carp Angler who falls asleep with his rods out; these sort of anglers probably also think that a double handled reel is only a gimmick, and two piece rods with removable buts allowing the rod to be folded and carried ‘ready made up’ in a rod sleeve are just gimmicks too. :)

Why do some humans think that anything new and different must be wrong?

Keith
 
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jsim

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Matt, that was a sad story ( loosing your gear ) but you must be thankful that you are here to tell the tale. East Stoke by any chance ?
Aye - commiserations for that Matt - take consolation that you can use the stuff you did manage to save. Is the Trent is near where you live currently - I'd like to fish on the Trent someday. Wonder what it was pulled you in - have you a new angling mission now to find out?
 

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Aye - commiserations for that Matt - take consolation that you can use the stuff you did manage to save. Is the Trent is near where you live currently - I'd like to fish on the Trent someday. Wonder what it was pulled you in - have you a new angling mission now to find out?
P.S.
Remiss of me not to have acknowledged the effort you put in to make your post so instructive and thanked you for it. It was very much in the spirit of the contributions that make a forum such as this worthwhile and make us keep coming back and I did hope that I hadn't seemed offhand because that was wrong and you deserved credit for being so helpful.
So - I'm sorry if that was the case. Thanks again
 

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It's all good guys.....the post was meant to educate and warn. I knew there would be some who would give me stick, and to be fair I knew it would come once I posted.

I knew I had f***ed up once the rod went but we live and learn.
@jsim more than happy for you to come and try the Trent in the new season. I can get day tickets in advance for the stretch I fish, or just down the road is day tickets on the bank and I can assist if you wish....or at least pop down with a flask.

I'm lucky I get to walk the banks of the Trent everyday I'm not at work as it runs past my village. The dog gets plenty of exercise!
 
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