Top kit + 1 or 4M Whip for silvers.

[SpeedyJD]

Hi all.
I'm thinking of doing a few silver matches this year and the other day I fished a top kit + two with a number 6 elastic. I caught about 20lb of roach (80-100 fish I reckon). There was a lot of breaking the pole down. My mate come over with his top kit + 1 with a long lash which made swinging the fish easier and got me thinking.
Should I invest in a 4m whip or just set up a top kit + 1 and save my money. Carp don't count even if I hooked one so not worried about losing them.
What do you think?

 

[Freesolo82]

That sounds like nice fishing, I think with regards to what you are asking it will come down to the individual, some really good anglers can fish a topkit plus 2 faster than I can fish a topkit +1, also how much control are you willing to give up and how hard are the fish to catch? I find a Topkit +1 better than 4m to hand in most scenarios especially on a stillwater

 

[ulladubulla]

Topkit and 1 - short line. Ship back and swing or net fish without breaking down with a roller placed correctly. Better presentation and more security if better fish are around?

 

[SpeedyJD]

Topkit and 1 - short line. Ship back and swing or net fish without breaking down with a roller placed correctly. Better presentation and more security if better fish are around?

I tried this while fishing top kit + 2, lost too many fish on the wriggle when trying to lift them so close in so to speak. Plus when I did need to break down my number 4 ended up in the gravel as my roller was too far back. My mates way setting the top kit + 1 was better as also I could put the number 3 under my arm pit whilst unhooking and putting another maggot on. Thank you anyway for the suggestion but wasn't efficient enough for me when speed is key.

 

[fasteddy]

If fish are not too big, then whip to hand. Nothing quicker.

 

[rd350lc]

Whips are cheap enough to own one and set it up ready , try both sometimes the presentation of the rig on a topkit works when a long line on a whip won't .
That sounds like cracking silver sport you have there

 

[Ken the Pacman]

Whip to hand will always be the fastest and part of the reason a whip is so slim is that you can get your fingers around it to unhook plus the action of a whip is softer to help with swinging fish and casting lighter floats.

 

[stephanie]

for silvers close you cant beat a whip i have a few set up in my holdall most are elasticated 3 meter through the top section 4 meter through top 2 all fished to hand elastics are solid 8s which give when needed and i have landed carp up to around 9lb on these too most of my rigs are done either shirt button style or with bulk under the float with only a few small droppers to keep bait falling with loosefeed

 

[Kojak]

Hi all.
I'm thinking of doing a few silver matches this year and the other day I fished a top kit + two with a number 6 elastic. I caught about 20lb of roach (80-100 fish I reckon). There was a lot of breaking the pole down. My mate come over with his top kit + 1 with a long lash which made swinging the fish easier and got me thinking.
Should I invest in a 4m whip or just set up a top kit + 1 and save my money. Carp don't count even if I hooked one so not worried about losing them.
What do you think?

A short waggler rod is brilliant for this, I use one of 11ft on the woodlands winter league and it out fishes the pole hands down (especially where Roach are concerned)with the added bonus of when you hook a carp you can quickly pull out of it as long as you’re using fine wire hooks.
The 11ft length means you can swing to hand easily (like a top kit) when it’s windy the long lash becomes difficult to control, I fish at between 9 and 16m usually.
Give it a try, once you get in a good routine you’ll be amazed at the speed you can catch?

 

[Tinca Steve]

I actually recommended a 6m +whip. Top 3 rest take apart. So if catching at 3m and they back off just add a section, and so forth.