Too many carp fisheries!!!

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goin_fishin

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Hey all,
im regarding on how many carp fisheries there are.
people are ignoring little fish every time i buy a magazine eg Anglers times every weeks ,75% its carp this or carp that, whats going to happen in 10 years time?????

ps no offence to carp anglers

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Cyprinid_boy

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It will only change when demand turns away from carp. For that to happen our flying friends will have to take a sudden dislike to silvers - ain't gonna happen!!
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ada

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been today to find a fisherie near bromsgrove that my club has a match on next month,the open that is advertised in the angling times produced a massive attendance of 6 blokes,needless to say I then drove 3 miles and found another 2 pools.both of these had matches on with no more than 10 present.is there too many? I think so.
 
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Its all a case of supply and demand,if the public want carp the public get carp,
Hopefuly in 10yrs time we are all still fishing{ I LUV FISHING ME} for carp or whatever roach bream etc. Who knows in 10yrs time you may have a record carp under you belticon_smile_approve.gificon_smile_approve.gificon_smile_approve.gificon_smile_approve.gif
Good luck and tight lines {I LUV FISHING ME}
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I agree with Toma that commercial fisheries have been created from the forces of supply and demand and a need for better fishing venues. I used to fish river matches but since learning to fish commercials, I would never go back to the rivers now. People expect different things from their choice of waters, for me I like to catch fish. Most of the rivers have been in a severe state of decline over the past decade and are not worth venturing to unless you can pick your peg. The other problem with rivers is that some of the better ones, all have Barbel syndicates on them, which encourages the puritan attitudes of certain 'glory hunting specialists'. Who cares whether barbel are stocked into commercial fisheries? It just means that more people can have the opportunity to catch one that way. The other option is the canals but to be honest, it is not a safe environment to fish, as you have to make way for both boats and cyclists alike, who seemingly think they have more rights to the tow path than anglers. Don't knock the commercials because they are the future of match fishing but there does seem to be a proliferation of specimen carp waters around. However, they too are predominantly syndicate run waters, so angling ability is constantly being substitued by elitism.
 

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I totally disagree with your comment regarding barbel. Although these species will quite happily survive in any environment the reason fishery owners are discouraged from stocking this species relates to the initial thefts from rivers after it was found anglers enjoyed fishing for barbel. This is a fact and I could tell you of 6 fisheries of the top of my head that have illegally stocked and stolen barbel. Should we encourage fishery owners to be greedily whilst destroying natural barbel stocks? Ill let you decide. What most anglers do not realize is the extent of fish theft. It is massive I would be willing to bet you have all caught a stolen fish!

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The Waters in Yokshire are there to make good sport for all the Anglers who Can't get on the rivers because of
a)Yorkshire Water draining the Wharf a couple of years ago during the Drought and killing the Fishing,
B) Foot and mouth
c) Clubs who have so many matches on the river Swale etc.
You either have to join a club to fish the rivers, or go to a Carp puddle which more often than not, keep a lake open for pleasure anglers or have pegs on the match lake for anglers.
I find that these waters are catering more for the pleasure angler than what the large Amalgamations who seem to have forgotten that there are plenty of fishermen who are unable to fish matches week in week out but still have a passion for fishing.so these lakes are i feel the future for pleasure anglers.

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Edited by - stu on 19 February 2002 08:20:57 AM
 

keith

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I think that possibly they can both be good for fishing.In the winter months 2 carp waters around me fish silver fish matches which are packed out with anglers wanting something different.Both Castle Ashby and Clattercote matches are well attended and this is a posibility for a lot of the commercial waters.Fish for the carp in the summer and roach/skimmers in winter.Although i have heard that Moorlands is filling there silver fish water with carp due in no one fishing it.
 

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Too many carp fisheries!!!
I love them,an awful lot of the "commercials" are now firmly established in this neck of the woods,and far from being muddy puddles are settling down into attractive fisheries,and havens for wildlife.
The other bonus is that with everyone targeting the carp,the other species present just go on getting bigger.These fish are often not targeted by the majority of anglers who have their "carpheads" on,"Nuisance fish".Well there is no such thing as far as i'm concerned,and the more they are ignored,the happier i am.
I'm sure that in years to come more and more specimens(non carp) will come from supposed carp puddles.
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My fist passion has always been, and always will be rivers. Matches on the Severn, stalking a little river or running a stick float down an inside crease. Doesn't matter how good/bad or indifferent it is, I just love moving water, but having said that commercial "carp" fisheries do have a definte place in the scheme of things.
I know lots of people who love fishing them. There is a different skill needed to fish them well, and if I cant, for whatever reason, fish a river, then my next choice is one of the many commercial fisheries that (fortunatley) are within reasonable driving distance of my home.
The more places available for anyone to fish, the better it must be for our sport.

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Peter

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My sentiments exactly Nige,
and you can't beat the commercials as venues for introducing novices to angling.

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The Commercials do fulfill a need , otherwise they would not keep opening, growing and advertising.
I am lucky in that many of my local ones are cheap, (25 Per Annum disabled ticket at Press Manor) but some of them, particularly for the Southern boys are nearly 10 per day now!.
Also, as Keith posts, Some are attracting Silver men, whilst others are restocking Carp in Silver only Pools (Hallcroft have also just done this to the Bridge Pool)
Preferring Rivers myself, I still dont fish the Pole properly on rivers! ,but love the Pole on Carp Puddles!.
Ease of Access is a huge bonus for a lot of us and I for one am only too pleased to have this variety and choice!
Long may all types continue.
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