The Pfizer vaccine
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Why don't you have a choice with the covid vaccine ?
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i ment in answer to teh previous question by Owl
Question Next Year will the Covid Jab cover the Flu jab or will they have to have both?
i do not have the flu jab currently but if the state you have to have flu and covid jab together i would happily do it
wasnt saying that would be the case, was simply saying it wouldnt bother me
Question Next Year will the Covid Jab cover the Flu jab or will they have to have both?
i do not have the flu jab currently but if the state you have to have flu and covid jab together i would happily do it
wasnt saying that would be the case, was simply saying it wouldnt bother me
My thinking in this is obviously if it sorts Covid it sorts the flu but if it dont and ya can only have one or the Other which is gonna be best for the Oldies?
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Ah I see . I take it you are not yourself or those you live with are not in the severely vulnerable category in that case which means you like me probably won't be very high on the priority list for the covid vaccine and will have to wait
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Theres no chance one injection will create immunity for both . In fact if theres a mutation of the coronavirus theres every chance any vaccine created now wouldn't be effective against that either . Virus vaccines are very disease specific .
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There are large numbers of people who don't take the flu vaccine who are very firmly in the high vulnerability bracket so the likelihood is those people wont have a covid vaccine either.
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live by myself and no vulnerable relatives nope so i will be a longgggg way down the list i expect.
fully agree, think there will still be two jabs, and sure you will be told you cannot have both at the same time
fully agree, think there will still be two jabs, and sure you will be told you cannot have both at the same time
Im one of those who chose against the Flu jab solely because i think their are more deserving Folk worthy of it, i think to be honest it would be same with the Covid vaccine.
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Like the MMR 3 in 1 injection
No idea mate but if this Vaccine is strong enough to Hold the Covid my thoughts would be mixing with the Flu jab might cause problems. My hope would be it kills the bloody lot
Viruses that is
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That might be your reasoning mate but the truth is certainly round here anyway that all doctors surgerys literally hound people to have the flu jab for the simple reason they get paid for it . My next door neighbour is 70 he's been trying to get a cough sorted out for weeks and has all sorts of aggro trying to get a doctors appointent yet the same surgery phone him 4 times in two weeks asking him to come in for a flu jab ..... he simply doesnt one one which is up to him .
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You can bet your sweet ass on that mate
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So I take it that a "few" people on this forum didn't pay much attention in biology lessons at school??
Nothing is completely safe - but frankly the risk of mild adverse reaction to a vaccine compared to the risk of serious illness?
examples
Vaccines are amongst the safest "drugs" that can be given to humans as they work with the immune system, whereas most other drugs disrupt or enhance a specific cellular process (which can have knock-on impacts on all the connected processes)
en.wikipedia.org
the MMR combination vaccination is safe.
Much of the modern anti-vaxxer nonsense can be traced back to the "con-man" Andrew Wakefield, who actually falsified data in his original paper (unlike UEA in the climate change debate)
en.wikipedia.org
And for balance - in the case of vaccines, the most worrying side effects are unanticipated immune responses - which are going to happen almost immediately (so don't require long-term studies in the same way) - which is different to the therapeutic drugs question
www.nature.com
As NOTN said - lots of people have not experienced a world with smallpox, endemic polio or other awful diseases that have been all but eradicated by vaccination.
Nothing is completely safe - but frankly the risk of mild adverse reaction to a vaccine compared to the risk of serious illness?
examples
Vaccines are amongst the safest "drugs" that can be given to humans as they work with the immune system, whereas most other drugs disrupt or enhance a specific cellular process (which can have knock-on impacts on all the connected processes)
Vaccine - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
the MMR combination vaccination is safe.
Much of the modern anti-vaxxer nonsense can be traced back to the "con-man" Andrew Wakefield, who actually falsified data in his original paper (unlike UEA in the climate change debate)
Andrew Wakefield - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And for balance - in the case of vaccines, the most worrying side effects are unanticipated immune responses - which are going to happen almost immediately (so don't require long-term studies in the same way) - which is different to the therapeutic drugs question
Don’t rush to deploy COVID-19 vaccines and drugs without sufficient safety guarantees
We must urgently develop measures to tackle the new coronavirus — but safety always comes first, says Shibo Jiang.
www.nature.com
As NOTN said - lots of people have not experienced a world with smallpox, endemic polio or other awful diseases that have been all but eradicated by vaccination.
