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brian carragher

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Going to be spending a lot of time in the Wallingford/Goring area over the next few months and was wondering where on the river was available either on a day ticket or free fishing, the area around Goring looks good for barble and silver fish and predators especially through the town section below the gates and upstream towards North Stoke seems to be a river for all species so it looks good around there and I've got access to a fair length of very private bank that holds good bream roach and pike so that might be a decent start

If anyone could give a heads up on areas or venues either on here or by pm to avoid publicity then it would be appreciated, theres a few members from the Oxfordshire area so I'm hoping I might get a pointer or two

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Mates of mine fish that general area and have caught huge fish of most species.

how do 40lb carp, 18 + barbel and chub to nearly 8lb grab you. Big bream ( by accident) Also.

That’s the good news; the bad news is that:

some stretches are well known particularly for barbel and get quite heavily fished Eg round Marlow; and the stretches with legal night fishing.
the fish are very mobile and hard to keep tabs on.
the big fish are quite thin on the ground.
some of the successful swims require boat access.
it is totally condition dependent. One mate did 9 straight blanks and then had 2 15+ barbel in 2 trips.

the really bad news is that I don’t know the stretches/swims (they haven’t told me and I haven’t asked!) so I can’t tell you any more detailed info.
 

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Going to be spending a lot of time in the Wallingford/Goring area over the next few months and was wondering where on the river was available either on a day ticket or free fishing, the area around Goring looks good for barble and silver fish and predators especially through the town section below the gates and upstream towards North Stoke seems to be a river for all species so it looks good around there and I've got access to a fair length of very private bank that holds good bream roach and pike so that might be a decent start

If anyone could give a heads up on areas or venues either on here or by pm to avoid publicity then it would be appreciated, theres a few members from the Oxfordshire area so I'm hoping I might get a pointer or two

Thanks

Bri

Depends on what you call south Oxfordshire. There’s free fishing first field downstream of the bridge at Wallingford. Has plenty of roach, dace, bleak and pike. Then Clifton hampden has free, day ticket and very cheap club fishing that is good for roach, dace, chub, bleak and perch. Even the stretches in and around Oxford itself is just about south Oxfordshire and has plenty of very cheap club fishing for roach, dace, bream, chub, bleak, perch, gudgeon and pike. Worthing noting that the Oxfordshire Thames is primarily a summer and autumn Fishery that can get very hard once you get into December. Wallingford is as far south as I venture I’m afraid so can’t help below that point. Around Oxford is my home patch though so I know it like the back of my hand so happy to help in anyway I can if that’s not too far from you ??
 

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Interesting. I have fished round Oxford quite a bit but only in the Winter And definitely only when the river is right. Last winter was a write off as the river was too high.

As Silverfisher says Clifden Hampden is nice as is Long Wittenham just above. There were (maybe still are) some big roach round Abingdon.
 

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Interesting. I have fished round Oxford quite a bit but only in the Winter And definitely only when the river is right. Last winter was a write off as the river was too high.
That’s the issue it’s rarely right in the proper winter these days. Can be in decent nick in December and the last couple weeks of the season but January and February have seen it out of sorts for a good few years now.
 

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Earlier I mentioned a mate having 9 consecutive blanks - that was because the river was too low. Last Winter there was too much water which demonstrates how critical the conditions are; at least for the specimen fishing that me and my pals do. And the conditions are species specific for us which makes it even trickier.
 

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Indeed, you go from the fairly reliable bounty of summer and early autumn to a lottery from late autumn into the winter. Last year was flooded or borderline flooded next to constantly from the end of October until start of March wasn’t it ?
 

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Looking forward to giving it a go, might be taking my lure rod and gear down with me to do a bit of fact finding, well perch pike and chub will do for a start

Cheers guys, any more info appreciated, can do by pm if anyone wishs

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Yes, sorry read it on Saturday and meant to reply so a very public thank you, very informative and just what I was looking for, no heads up on swims or pegs, a good heads up on broad areas and species, back down on Monday next and will be taking my light lure gear with me for a few opportunistic sessions chasing a few fish and hopefully coming across some local anglers

Any joy and I'll put something up, will be trying the whip and maggot/caster to see if the roach want to play, its one of my favourite methods to fish
 

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Still not got anywhere near the river yet, always seems to be in flood , carries a fair bit of water over the winter does the Thames
 

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It does indeed! Was last in genuinely good nick about 5 weeks ago. Been the odd couple days it’s been alright since but that’s about it largely been up a lot. It’s not far off about right now tbf but typically just as it’s gone cold which poses it’s own problems.
 

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Still not got anywhere near the river yet, always seems to be in flood , carries a fair bit of water over the winter does the Thames
River is too low for me and my mates at present.That’s why I’m rod testing and also looking at a move to the B Avon to target chub.
 

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River is too low for me and my mates at present.That’s why I’m rod testing and also looking at a move to the B Avon to target chub.
It’s about 3 inches above the grass line and needing 60g to comfortably hold bottom where I’ve been fishing. Colours spot on though. All the anglers I’ve seen have had much the same thoughts that it needs to maintain the colour but lose a little pace. Pace is actually ok if the water was warmer but too quick for fish not keen to dart about in the cold. That’s pretty much all silvers and predator anglers though.

Was a bit better last weekend but some how seems a little higher again now despite very little rain, can frost run off do that?
 

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Mid reaches (above Oxford) fished well over this weekend apparently. I didn't make it out, but fishing mate did and had chub on bread and roach on an avon when fishing the Tadpole AC stretch. Saw a few reports on social media of a few nice roach bags.
 

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Mid reaches (above Oxford) fished well over this weekend apparently. I didn't make it out, but fishing mate did and had chub on bread and roach on an avon when fishing the Tadpole AC stretch. Saw a few reports on social media of a few nice roach bags.
That’s interesting to hear. Suppose it’s quite a different river up on the upper reaches way above Oxford. Even Northmoor which is as far up as I go and still very much middle reaches is a bit smaller than around Oxford. Not heard any positive reviews from around Oxford since your session on Thursday so I’d assumed it had been a bad weekend unless people are just slow to report this weekend. Was loads of decent reports last week when it was a bit warmer.
 

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I’m trying to get my head round how the middle river ‘works’ as it is totally different to the upper river.

Im used to semi-spate rivers eg upper B Avon, where the river reacts to rain really quickly. It goes up quick and goes down quick - so you might only get one day when it is bang on.

The middle and lower Thames are ‘managed’ for two reasons: flood prevention and navigation. Angling is WAY down the pecking order.

In the winter they (E.A.) basically have to get rid of water as quickly as is possible so even when the river levels are down they are running it off. We probably need 2 weeks of high pressure with no rainfall to get a realistic drop in flow speed.

The good news from our perspective is that the internet provides access to all the Thames level/flow gauges - so it is possible to see what is going on at specific locations. It seems to me that whilst there is obviously an overall river management plan; some stretches vary more than others. That could be down to simple geography OR maybe that the E.A. uses some stretches as ‘pounds’ to try and hold water back ?

The bad news is that as our climate is changing to be more extreme (hotter average temps and heavier precipitation events) and population density in the T valley continues to rise; so the river will have to become even more ‘managed’. For example a great deal more money is going to have to be spent on flood prevention as our rainfall patterns change.

Im pretty new to this part of the river - it will take me years to work out what is going on and how it affects the fishing for particular species.
 

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I’m trying to get my head round how the middle river ‘works’ as it is totally different to the upper river.

Same here.. I cut my teeth on the upper Thames (Lechlade, Buscott, Inglesham, etc), upper Bristol Avon and Warks Avon, plus smaller rivers like the (Stroud) Frome.

Since returning to the UK, I'm closer to what I'd call the middle reaches of the Thames (below Rushey Weir), and the river seems to take longer to 'run off' than upstream. I drove over the River at Lechlade on Wednesday, and it looked absolutely 'crack on' both the level and flow. Drove over it at Eynsham on Friday (closer to Oxford) and it was up and pushing through, there was a lot of surface water about plus some of the smaller tributaries were up (I looked at the Windrush).

I'm assuming it's a case of running off the water to lower the water tables and minimize the risk of flooding.

I think that one reason why the fields in the valley just after Burford on the A40 (towards Oxford) are always flooded is because they are used to manage what happens downstream. (I think the pounds are called bunds).
 

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The Thames around here certainly takes longer to run off than it does to rise by a fair way. That’s quite beneficial in the warmer months as any amount of rain sees the river stay in good nick for quite a while compared to a lot of rivers at that time of year but in colder months it can leave it out of sorts for quite a while compared to other rivers.
 
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