Tench not carp

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I know it’s the wrong time of the year for targeting tench but do people think there is a way to single them out in a water that is dominated by carp?

I've caught tench from many waters over the years on a variety of baits and methods but the fisheries were all well mixed with species. Having been told my local lake has a small head of golden tench amidst the 99% carp I was wondering if they could be fished for specifically.

I‘m doubting it but hope to be proven wrong.
 

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Unlikely. Carp eat everything,edible or not, so I can’t think of a bait that will single Tench out.
 

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Tench are much more sophisticated feeders than carp.

on specialist tench waters that hold carp, the good tench anglers catch the tench and slaughter the carp, the carp anglers just catch a few carp.

So finer tackle, smaller baits, smarter rigs etc etc.
 

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Will content myself whizzing out the carp for now and possibly focus on the tench next year, there are two gorgeous looking lily patches I hope are their home but I see a lot of carp activity around them.
 

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I used to fish a lake with a good head of carp and I used to guarantee catching tench rather than carp,by fishing with a red or lob worm on the hook. If I used any other bait, such as sweetcorn, I would catch more carp and only the occasional tench.
 

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It is a difficult one to solve. I gave up on the water I used to fish for tench a few years ago as whereas originally you could get a tench for every carp by the time I gave up on it I was getting 4-5 carp for every tench.

Talking about it being out of season for tench a guy from my club had one out of the Thames today!
 

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A club member had 2 Tench and a Barbel out yesterday while targeting Carp on sweetcorn. He didn't catch a Carp though.
 

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It is a difficult one to solve. I gave up on the water I used to fish for tench a few years ago as whereas originally you could get a tench for every carp by the time I gave up on it I was getting 4-5 carp for every tench.

Talking about it being out of season for tench a guy from my club had one out of the Thames today!
That’s partly because the river has been in perfect winter condition for the past 36 hours.
 

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I catch small Tench, bars of soap as I call them, throughout winter on maggots but as said, can't single them out amongst the carp and for bigger Tench I would wait until it's season to stand a reasonable chance of hooking one, maybe on worms as said but I think you will still catch Carp on them if it's 99% Carp.
 

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That’s partly because the river has been in perfect winter condition for the past 36 hours.
Not too sure about that. It came from a lock cut as the guy didn’t fancy fishing the river as even the usually calm city centre stretch he was going to fish was too fast..
 

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Think there is only 3 things you can consider, presentation which has been mentioned, location (where in the peg/s) may have been, which for me would be down the marginal shelf this time of year, and also bait, small 6/8mm boilies in a sweet flavour, sweetcorn or double/triple maggot in that respect, and yes may be worm.

Although i don't think you can 100% avoid the carp, you could be very careful perhaps on amounts of bait, which in an odd way, is made easier in the warmer months i feel, as light feeding this time of year suits all species, including the carp. When it's warmer, putting less of a banuet out there does help with not pulling them in.

For me there is nothing worse where the fish in a venue will all eat the same things and when you are looking to single out a particular species, whether it's everything now liking a pellet on the river, where i am as much to blame as the next person for that, or trying to set out my stall for silvers on a carp lake, or sometimes when trying to get a bait down past silvers to the carp, keeps us thinking i suppose and is one of the things with fishing.
 

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Not too sure about that. It came from a lock cut as the guy didn’t fancy fishing the river as even the usually calm city centre stretch he was going to fish was too fast..
River was shot to pieces Sunday - Tuesday.

Wed it was fishable (just) and Thursday it was nice.

Yesterday I fished and it was almost perfect. starting to drop but still with plenty of colour. No rubbish coming down and most importantly it was positively hot. Over 9 degrees. I was almost surprised I didn’t get another barbel.

By Monday the temperature will have gone down quite a bit and the colour will be going/gone too. Get the chub gear out !
 

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River was shot to pieces Sunday - Tuesday.

Wed it was fishable (just) and Thursday it was nice.

Yesterday I fished and it was almost perfect. starting to drop but still with plenty of colour. No rubbish coming down and most importantly it was positively hot. Over 9 degrees. I was almost surprised I didn’t get another barbel.

By Monday the temperature will have gone down quite a bit and the colour will be going/gone too. Get the chub gear out !
Depends where you are a bit I guess. They’ve certainly been having a good moan about it on the club pages for weeks now haha

I think I’m going to go sandford as whilst the old channel will be near unfishable down the confluence of it and the lock channel there’s a swim I’ve got in mind where I suspect there might be a crease/slack. If not always got the lock channel but I’m not really a fan of that as it’s a bit boom or bust.
 

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Small particles and less feed is most important - spread your feed wide so as not to create a feeding frenzy (hemp is good to spark their activity). Tench are less likely to shoal-up over feed as carp do, so fish by sight targeting individual fish using their fizzing as a guide to where they are. Float is nearly always best, with double, triple maggot or sweetcorn as hook bait.

Find the features: tench like the weeds/pads etc, they also like to feed on a hard slope if you can find one. Rarely need to be far out to find the tench, but be prepared to fish loose and cast about to search them out.

Best to fish early - before the carp really get going.
 

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I've lost count of the number of venues I've stopped fishing due to the management constantly 'topping up' with carp & bream, to the extent that tench become an unrealistic prospect, despite the number of people who say tench are their favourite species... well why not reflect that in the stocking policy?

I remember when I used to fish Kiveton Waters all the time, I'd get there as early as the gates opened (which already lost me 2 hours of valuable tench time) and get started as quick as possible, then I'd inevitably hit a carp that would churn up & down the peg, destroying any chance of better fish...
got sick of it in the end... that and the fact any tench you did catch were deformed round the mouth thru most other anglers fishing heavy method tactics, trying to catch the carp

best way to target tench? fish a water with no carp or bream!
 

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Another thing that may help is to use observation. Tench sometimes roll on the surface, whereas carp show at the surface, but tend not to roll. Also at first light, keep an eye out for tiny bubbles breaking the surface of the water. Carp send up bubbles too, but tench bubbles are usually smaller.
 

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I've lost count of the number of venues I've stopped fishing due to the management constantly 'topping up' with carp & bream, to the extent that tench become an unrealistic prospect, despite the number of people who say tench are their favourite species... well why not reflect that in the stocking policy?

I remember when I used to fish Kiveton Waters all the time, I'd get there as early as the gates opened (which already lost me 2 hours of valuable tench time) and get started as quick as possible, then I'd inevitably hit a carp that would churn up & down the peg, destroying any chance of better fish...
got sick of it in the end... that and the fact any tench you did catch were deformed round the mouth thru most other anglers fishing heavy method tactics, trying to catch the carp

best way to target tench? fish a water with no carp or bream!

I would assume it’s the cost of Tench and the fact they are a slow growing fish, when it’s a business, cost and VFM for the owner is always going to be a deciding factor.
 
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