Talking About Mental Health In Angling

[mike fox]

A prominent topic on the tellybox this week has been talking about mental health. Depression and Anxiety being the obvious. So lets talk about if Angling can help people with these issues and could Angling be used in therapy as treatment for such conditions. Have you experienced Depression or Anxiety during your life and angling has helped you toward recovery or do you know someone that has.
It certainly helped me through my troubled times 23/24 years ago.

 

[Zerkalo]

The benefits of angling on mental health should be plain to see so hopefully people will agree on that, it definitely helps me. I get SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) as it is so definitely feel worse without as much fishing.

It's not surprising it's topical in the news at the momen though, loons in government and police sectioning people under the mental health act more than ever.

 

[Spadger123]

Police cannot section people. They use what's called a 136 and although it's classed as a section it can only be used to remove people to a place of safety until they can be assessed by a mental health professional who may then refer them for a mental health act assessment.
It cannot be used in the persons home either, to remove someone from their home you have to apply for a warrant, this is called a 135.
The whole problem with mental health at the moment has a lot to do with GPs believe it or not.
They tell people they are depressed and hand out antidepressants like sweets, bottom line is...There is a massive difference between people being "unhappy" or "sad" because of social circumstances, than suffering from real depression, which is an imbalance of chemicals in the brain.
We are medicalising everyday life through social media and societies refusal to accept that life is s**t sometimes and you just have to get on with it occasionally.
PTSD which is often suffered by our brave men and women in the armed forces is a different ball game before anyone picks up on that.

 

[Zerkalo]

Sectioning people and using a 136 is the same thing to layman. Especially as the psychiatrists are worse than GPs for handing out the meds. Put it this way, you can CHOOSE whether you want the meds or not from a GP. Not under the mental health act for which you can be detained almost indefinitely.

 

[Wise Owl]

I now tend to look at people who i know, work with or Love for reactions that are not normal, i may be barking up the wrong Tree looking for summat that aint there but after loosing a couple of mates to suicide i think if i can help in any way to try stop someones unhappiness even if its by making a joke i will.

 

[Markywhizz]

It’s absolutely not true that more people are being detained under the mental health act. Since this government’s austerity measures many mental health units have been closed. There is a huge waiting list just to see a psychiatrist. Many people who had regular support from mental heath services no longer receive this. Waiting lists for talking therapies such as CBT are ridiculous. Mental health patients are all being referred back to their GP as their only source of treatment and support. This government talking about understanding mental health issues is just a joke.

 

[Zerkalo]

The number of detentions under the Mental Health Act is rising

The number of people detained under the Mental Health Act has increased by 47% in ten years.

fullfact.org

I don't want to argue the point too much, but being detained under the Mental Health Act if very different to seeking mental health help on a waiting list. The government talk about Mental Health to deflect from their own inadequacies though, I'd agree with that.

And to get a fuller picture of the statistics you'd need to look at what crimes they've commited before detention.

 

[mike fox]

My point in question is - can angling help those with depression and anxiety control these emotions. Not mental health detention statistics.

 

[Wise Owl]

It sure wouldn't do any harm especially within the right company.

 

[emmaemma]

Angling can help those with depression and anxiety as would a lot of other sports or pastimes. if you can take your mind off the s**t things in life and focus on something else you may have an interest in, if only for a short time, and prferably in company, then the world can certainly be a better place.

 

[Markywhizz]

Fishing has helped me massively for the last eight years. I don’t think I would be here without it.

 

[Chris Calder]

Angling can help those with depression and anxiety as would a lot of other sports or pastimes. if you can take your mind off the s**t things in life and focus on something else you may have an interest in, if only for a short time, and prferably in company, then the world can certainly be a better place.

Very good post, it's amazing what 5 or 6 hours total distraction can make

 

[Wise Owl]

The one thing i hate is Being alone, loneliness must be a terrible thing especially if you are suffering with Mental health.

 

[kevin o connor]

While I agree it can help to take your mind off things, I would suggest that anyone suffering from depression should always have someone go with them when going fishing ! Deep flowing cold water and depression may not be the best mix for someone who feels life is not worth living.

 

[Spadger123]

Sectioning people and using a 136 is the same thing to layman. Especially as the psychiatrists are worse than GPs for handing out the meds. Put it this way, you can CHOOSE whether you want the meds or not from a GP. Not under the mental health act for which you can be detained almost indefinitely.

I've never read so much rubbish in my life. You can only be detained on a 136 if you are deemed to be a danger to yourself and others.
Medication by psychiatrists can only be forced upon you in a hospital setting and even then when on a sec3 of the MHA, even then you have to be displaying symptoms that are either detrimental to yourself and others.
A sec 3 can last for 6 months but very rarely does, if symptoms are not improved by then a referral to rehab services is usually or should be made.
People are not detained indefinitely anymore, there are unfortunate people who suffer with medication resistant schizophrenia or other illnesses of the mind but they are usually given a paid for care package.
The patients who are constantly in and out of hospital in today's society are the ones who suffer with drug induced psychosis, or personality disorders.
Drug induced I have no time for, they choose to take whatever drug messes them up and then expect the NHS to fix them.
Personality disorders is a specialist branch, underfunded and requiring specialist cognitive therapy.

 

[Zerkalo]

I've never read so much rubbish in my life. You can only be detained on a 136 if you are deemed to be a danger to yourself and others.
Medication by psychiatrists can only be forced upon you in a hospital setting and even then when on a sec3 of the MHA, even then you have to be displaying symptoms that are either detrimental to yourself and others.
A sec 3 can last for 6 months but very rarely does, if symptoms are not improved by then a referral to rehab services is usually or should be made.
People are not detained indefinitely anymore, there are unfortunate people who suffer with medication resistant schizophrenia or other illnesses of the mind but they are usually given a paid for care package.
The patients who are constantly in and out of hospital in today's society are the ones who suffer with drug induced psychosis, or personality disorders.
Drug induced I have no time for, they choose to take whatever drug messes them up and then expect the NHS to fix them.
Personality disorders is a specialist branch, underfunded and requiring specialist cognitive therapy.

Basically a quick way for police to get around paper work is the way I see it. Difficult to prove to a psychiatrist after a police referral that your not a danger. All the rest I'm already aware of and in no way relates to my point.

 

[Spadger123]

The one thing i hate is Being alone, loneliness must be a terrible thing especially if you are suffering with Mental health.

You can be alone in a crowded room when suffering from depression mate.

 

[Wise Owl]

You can be alone in a crowded room when suffering from depression mate.

I guess i dont know what it entails and can only wish i could see what that person needs as a pick me up

 

[Spadger123]

Basically a quick way for police to get around paper work is the way I see it. Difficult to prove to a psychiatrist after a police referral that your not a danger. All the rest I'm already aware of and in no way relates to my point.

Garbage again... I work a triage car or to you a mental health practitioner in a police car assessing people who call when in distress.
If the police 136 someone, they have to stay with the individual until they are assessed by 2 Drs and a social worker, all trained in the mental health act and mental health diagnosis.
The police "hate" implementing 136 because it creates a s**t full of paperwork for them.
If you are going to make statements then at least know what you are talking about.

 

[Zerkalo]

Garbage again... I work a triage car or to you a mental health practitioner in a police car assessing people who call when in distress.
If the police 136 someone, they have to stay with the individual until they are assessed by 2 Drs and a social worker, all trained in the mental health act and mental health diagnosis.
The police "hate" implementing 136 because it creates a s**t full of paperwork for them.
If you are going to make statements then at least know what you are talking about.

You go straight from the cell at the police station to a mental health hospital. Usually at the expense of an ambulance, not a police car.

I knew you'd be someone in the system from your replies. Would not wish being sectioned on anyone with the state of said system.