Spade end hooks, Are they worth the hassle?

RedRidingHood

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I love spade end hooks, I love how they look and I love how they present, But they're fast becoming more hassle than they're worth for me to tie. As I'm typing this I have an indentation on my finger which is extremely painful to type on - This is because I've been trying to tie spade end hooks for the past hour and I'm having to nib the hook as hard as I can to stop the loop pulling through. Now, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or I just have sausage fingers but my success rate is about 1/7 on smaller hooks (anything smaller than 16). It's becoming something of a joke and I'm basically just constantly swearing and having a meltdown trying to tie them.

This has been the case for about 10 years.

My last ditch effort; Whats the absolute, foolproof, easiest, non painful way to tie these f*cking things without using a tier, Which, ironically I never figured out how to use? Because at this point I'm down to just go 100% eyed. lol
 

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I love spade end hooks, I love how they look and I love how they present, But they're fast becoming more hassle than they're worth for me to tie. As I'm typing this I have an indentation on my finger which is extremely painful to type on - This is because I've been trying to tie spade end hooks for the past hour and I'm having to nib the hook as hard as I can to stop the loop pulling through. Now, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or I just have sausage fingers but my success rate is about 1/7 on smaller hooks (anything smaller than 16). It's becoming something of a joke and I'm basically just constantly swearing and having a meltdown trying to tie them.

This has been the case for about 10 years.

My last ditch effort; Whats the absolute, foolproof, easiest, non painful way to tie these f*cking things without using a tier, Which, ironically I never figured out how to use? Because at this point I'm down to just go 100% eyed. lol
Just get a hook tyer and learn how to do it ! Or buy ready tied to nylon , the ranges these days are excellent
 

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I feel that way about eyed hooks, never seem to get a nice presentation.

For spade I always used a Middy Matchman tyer - wouldn’t have a clue about tying without one - invest in one and have a play for a while, you won’t regret it
 

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AAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!! I just watched a video of how to use a Drennan Hook Tier (the one I've used for close on 30 years, and have never had to replace!).... but it's really, really different to how I have always used it!

 

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Bite the dust and learn how to use a hook tier it’s very very easy honestly.

If you are a little unsure of how to use one then just ask your tackle shop to show you how.

The key is to maintain tension/pull On the line as you turn it and don’t overlap the turns, and wet the knot before you tighten the knot.


Keith
 

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Hook Tiers, what a disaster they were for me last year :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

thinking it's pre-tied or eyed for me guys.
 

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I had a break from fishing for a long time but never forgot how to use a matchman hook tyer but wouldn't really know where to start tying spade end hooks by hand. Only time I use eyed hooks is for hair rigs.
 

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I feel that way about eyed hooks, never seem to get a nice presentation.

For spade I always used a Middy Matchman tyer - wouldn’t have a clue about tying without one - invest in one and have a play for a while, you won’t regret it
Agreed. I don't mind so much on the rod but on the pole it just isn't right. I've always got spade ends tied but if I run out on the bank it's a pain.
Got a tier but I'm just disastrous with them to the point as to where practice didn't make perfect.. At all. May just have to give them another go though.
 

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I just use ready tied saves the faff and they are far better than I could ever tie.
I use ready tied now too, but preferred tying my own in the days when I could. I thought DIY got me better results (likely wishful thinking)
 

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I use ready tied now too, but preferred tying my own in the days when I could. I thought DIY got me better results (likely wishful thinking)
My results have definitely improved with ready tied as they fail a lot less than my tying lol
 

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I hand tie spades down to a 16 and then just buy the odd packet of smaller hooks to nylon as I use so few.

I used to use a tier - but have forgotten how. I guess I could re-learn if I needed to.
 

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If the time came that I couldn't tie spades by hand (cant use a tyer, tried several and couldn't do it) then I would have no qualms about ready tied. The ones today are streets ahead of the ones from the 70's/80's/90's, and with the boxes available to keep them in, you could always put used ones back for another day.
 

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I can, if necessary, tie a spade-end by hand - I used to be able to do any size but due to lack of practice a 16 is probably the smallest I'd attempt today.

Having said that I've used a Matchman hook-tyer ever since I started fishing - 40+ years ago - and would be lost without it.
I always think the sign of a good design is it's longevity and the design has barely changed since it was introduced - having said that the spade-end knot is fairly simple anyway and all the hook-tyer does really is hold the loop out of the way whilst you whip the line down the shank.

Simon

PS Just tried to hand-tie a 16, it took three attempts and the third one looks a bit pot-bellied :p
 
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