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Northantslad

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Not sure any better than the locals Zerks and i certainly wouldn't want to deter any from contributing mate, if, aside from yourself of course, any locals wish to give a view. Ta for the commendation too, but skills wise not much different to couple of years back, nor are the conditions however, yet results in such conditions this year have been surprisingly good and in pegs i wouldn't have always fished through choice, it may be then perhaps the more stealthy approach working for some of us.
 

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Interesting the difference in shapes and colours from the middle to the lower, that aside Keith, they look like they have been feeding well and that is before they try and get a bit on for winter, bodes well for a big un or two in the coming months.(y)
 

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They do look in good condition Chris and all have fought well.
The Winter campaign will be Chub and Preds this Winter as I believe I have found a couple of swims that will provide.
Any Barbel will be a bonus.
 

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Not sure any better than the locals Zerks and i certainly wouldn't want to deter any from contributing mate, if, aside from yourself of course, any locals wish to give a view. Ta for the commendation too, but skills wise not much different to couple of years back, nor are the conditions however, yet results in such conditions this year have been surprisingly good and in pegs i wouldn't have always fished through choice, it may be then perhaps the more stealthy approach working for some of us.
Agree with all that. We see some anglers, both locals and visitors, fishing the same way they did 20 years ago. Like all fishing you adapt to changes to get the better results. From what we see on one week per year on the middle stretches, the barbels average size is getting bigger with fewer fish- we used to reckon on getting well over 100 per week and with the larger size they’re inevitably getting cannier.We’re not particularly specialists, of this years party we had one serious barbel angler (Terry), two lapsed match/ team anglers (me and Ken) , one mostly boat/ sea angler (Dan) and Steve who in recent years only fishes on this annual week.
But importantly I think we’ve always pooled information each night.
A few observations- last couple of years we’ve had far far better results on 4 and 6 mil pellets than anything bigger. A lot of the bites from barbel this year seemed to be coming within a couple of minutes of casting but if you cast more regularly to try to take advantage of this the indications very soon stopped. Quite a few line bites in the same time frame which suggested they were often straight onto the feed but not for long.
Worth having different length hooklengths set up . A couple of times upping the length to 5 or 6 ft got an immediate response but again not for long .
Been a few years now since any of us had more than the very odd barbel on the float- used to get more when the fish were smaller.
Smaller feeders were definitely the way this year. Was using the shorter blackcaps in 30 gram mostly, 40 on the first couple of days when fishing in faster shallows, and often only half filling the feeder. Getting through only at most half a bag of 4 mils a day and upping the feed made no difference for me . As I say, they seemed to be backing off very quickly and most days had a second line going to give the main one a regular rest.
Obviously will be all change with more water on.
 

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Yes, very much the same experiences runner, particularly minimal feed and small hookbaits. One thing i always do is fish a short hair, as i have to know what the indications are from (i.i catch them); small chub then up the feed, large chub then maintain. Yes hooking a chub may do little for the swim, but i think getting feeding wrong is very high if not top of the list of things to not get wrong.
 

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A short three hour session at Sydney Avenue this evening. As I drove onto the stretch I saw that my favourite end peg was free, but as I continued along the whole stretch it was deserted, including the beach pegs at the head of the island. Since I'd never been able to fish the beach as it had always been occupied I forsook my favourite peg and decided to try the faster narrow water at the beach.

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I'd already set up the rods for the slower water so although I didn't really expect the maggot feeder to work here I started with this on one rod. This got plenty of rattles that produced five fish, two tiny gudgeon and three little dace. A late switch to pellet on the hook didn't get any bites.

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The bomb and pellet rod only got one bite halfway through the session, which was three or four little pulls that I half heartedly struck expecting it to be weed, so was surprised when the bomb started moving upstream. It was a good fight with the fish hanging in the flow in the centre of the river, and it turned out to be a 5.5lb barbel very lightly hooked just inside the lips.

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Only one sizeable fish, but that's better than nothing.
 

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Good stuff @WickerDave 👍🏻

I might be up in Shrewsbury in November hopefully with the opportunity for a quick session somewhere so be interested to hear where you’d recommend around there for a few bites from anything really at that time of year? Have not been up there for quite a few years now and never that late in the year so would be flying a bit blind!
 

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@Silverfisher, I've not had much experience yet in the cooler months. I did fish Sydney Avenue twice last November and only managed one fish, a 6lbish barbel. There were a few relevant responses to a recentish Shrewsbury thread, including the first one from you!
 

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@Silverfisher, I've not had much experience yet in the cooler months. I did fish Sydney Avenue twice last November and only managed one fish, a 6lbish barbel. There were a few relevant responses to a recentish Shrewsbury thread, including the first one from you!
Ah nice I remember that thread now thanks 👍🏻I would think the latest I’ve ever been up there is about September certainly not seen it with the leaves down so a useful thread to re-read. If I do get to fish it would just be an early morning session before family activities.
 

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Well done, Dave. I've seen that peg in various videos. Just checked the levels at Bewdley, 0.20m on the gauge, painfully low and even lower than a week or two ago when it was 0.24m.
 

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It's been up and down by just 4cm since early August, fluctuating between 0.20 and 0.24. Be the usual January/Feb massive flood i suspect, then back to painfully low and clear again. Similar pattern now for what, the last 3 years?
 

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I did quite well last winter with 0.7m on the gauge at Bewdley so hope for that again sooner the better! :) Think you'll be right though it will shoot up to 2m and stay there most likely.
 

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I planned to go to the Danery this morning. Had a job come in first thing though so couldn't get there till 11am,

On arriving at the Danery lay by, there were already 4 cars there, about as many that can fit. I tried to squeeze on but would have been blocking another cars access to their boot, with mine hanging on the main road, so decided to drive down to Quatford instead.

Only one van there when I got to Quatford, so I made the long walk down towards the tree pegs in the second meadow. The main fallen tree peg was taken, didn't fancy the next one, so carried on walking round the bend past the houses. I wasn't travelling particularly light either.

Settled for this peg, didn't think much of it, fished it once before and didn't catch anything. It's slow, just round a bend, and reasonably deep. No flow at all on it pretty much with the river being low, but I didn't want to walk any further.

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Plan was to fish a Black Cap feeder with maggots, casters and hemp. I had four casts without an indication. This is going to be a hard day, I thought to myself, expecting the usual Dace and Perch to show to maggot.

Then there was a procession of canoes. I let them go and cast out again when the rod goes round firmly but quite slowly. Certainly a Barbel as it took line going UPSTREAM.

I fancied it for bigger than it was the way it tore off upstream, but it was about 6lb.

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Not a bad start after about half an hour fishing. First bite a Barbel. Maybe there was more?

Not until 15.50pm when I had one half the size, about 3lb on worm.

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It was around the time of unhooking this second Barbel that one of my Slazenger trainers decided to completely disintegrate on me. The sole came away from the trainer completely on the right hand side, leaving my foot bare through a gaping hole. There's a moral in there somewhere, make sure you wear suitable footwear especially when you've got a long walk, but I managed to 'fix' it by tying the lace around it, backed up with some 10lb line wrapped around to hold it together.

I had a keepnet out for silvers but only had about 5 Perch (biggest 1.5lb), 5 Dace and a small Chublet so neglected to take a photo of that.

I carried on fishing until 'dark' at 7.30pm but the rod remained pretty motionless so time to pack away and make the long walk back. ]

Nothing exceptional really but a couple of fish at least.
 

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@Zerkalo that looked a cracking swim and nice to see you get a few for your hard efforts after the long track.
I've no experience of the Severn but I do read the thread to try learn about the river to give me an idea of how to fish it some day.
I've watched The Ginger Fisherman's videos on YouTube where he fishes for Barbel & Chub on his low, clear & weedy River & he's very good at it.
The fish are pressured but he still catches. The main things I've gained from his videos are feed 3mm Halibut and\or Red Robin Pellets to get the Barbel & Chub grubbing about (they don't spoke the fish when they're being thrown in), wait at least 20mins before casting in, fish as small a flat lead as possible & not a feeder and a Sz8 for threading on a 8mm Hookable Pellet or Sz12 with a Hair Rigged 8mm Pellet to an 8lb Clear Sufix Advance Hyper Copolymer Hooklength.
There was also a brilliant Q&A on Clive Branson's channel during Lockdown with Steve Maher and he doesn't use Black Caps with dry pellets any more as he says the fish are clever and sit further down the peg and just wait for the pellets to come down to them.
He prefers to wet his pellets & pack them into a Nisa Plastic Cage feeder and make them come to the feeder and fish a shorter tail which also must aid hookups. This method also helps to keep the bait in a smaller area. He also fishes meat this way.
I do know, like many other rivers, a lot of sun light immediately limits the amount of your swim that's fishable as the fish hug the far side and stay in the shade. That's fair enough but I can't see how people firing a feeder or lead in on top of their heads every few minutes helps things.
I could be completely wrong but that swim was crying out to be float fished. Plumb up Dave Harrell style with a Stick Float & 2oz Bomb and use this depth to setup your other Float Rigs adding more depth until the float goes under.
A Chubber Float with the Bulk just off bottom dragging 3ft of line to a bunch of maggots, corn or a pellet banded directly to the shank of the hook. Alternatively a big enough Waggler to get across with no.6 Droppers.
The float would cover more area searching out the peg and the fish will feed more confidently.
Also I'd wet the 3mm Feed Pellets and mix some Fishmeal & Sweet Groundbait in with them to give more attraction and hopefully create a longer scent trail down the River. Just my tuppence worth anyway.
 
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Cheers @Tinca Mad. Bomb and pellet is a good tactic, as of course is the float. I loosefeed where I can when it's low.

I told my mate I'm yet to catch a Barbel on the float and he was shocked as it's the only way he fishes for them. It's mostly through lack of trying but there's various things that stop me fishing a float. Sometimes half the swims are parrot cages and you don't always know which one you're going to get. Also sometimes it's too much of a waiting game for me, a lot more effort than legering if only realistically still expecting a couple of fish from most pegs. Saying that I would have had a decent long and slow trot yesterday, if there was room to cast in that peg.

Those are my excuses anyway. :) But I would say more than one way to skin a cat. If you do ever get the chance to fish the Severn around Bridgnorth you'll hopefully realise what an 'anglers playground' it is, by that I mean a variety of pegs all with their own flow and features.
 

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Recognise that swim ! Had my only English 2lb roach from it a couple of years ago…
Always a few barbel there but can’t remember any of us getting more than 4 or 5 in a day. Two thirds over is where they normally come from
 

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You see, don't wait for water on mate or you will only be be fishing a month of the season, nice fish (y)
Excuses? No need for them, two Barbel is a result in my book, you should be chuffed. Its two more than the blank that most of us are capable of having.
 

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Cheers all. Can't catch 10 every time you go. :) Though do always hope for a bonus Roach.
 

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A long time since i've seen pictures of 10 Barbel from a session in this thread or the Trent one for that matter, i don't think it happens that much to be honest and given how we tend to fish for them. The match lads have some great sessions if fishing that way floats your boat, big respect to them, they aren't top for nothing and whilst we put loads of effort in with early starts etc, they do too, but then spending hours setting up their match kit, where as Barbelling for us is fairly light kit wise.
 
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