MD virtual champion 2020. Golden Pie winner 2018.
- Feb 19, 2017
One of my very first stories was "fishing in the 50's the 2050's"; I think I may have been right.
If the Carp in commercials wern't so damaged, they could be sold on to the Carp lakes as good sized stockies. Unfortunately, the Carp boys want pretty fish, so thats not going to happen.
I can't afford many wild brownie waters. I've yet to work out why river trout fishing is so expensive just because you use a method that makes a very easy to catch fish harder to catch. Especially when coarse fishing the same venues in the winter is a fraction of the price.
I worked at the trout farm in Pickering for a while many years ago and they had a fishing lake where you could catch your own. Regularly stocked from the stock ponds and you could catch them on a cigarette butt
Sounds good to me ,anything with fins and live in water .also can we stop all this bashing of different types of angling please, if you dont like a certain type of fishing then dont do it, but there is no need to knock people who do enjoy it or make derogatory remarks, not all carp anglers are camo wearing catch at all cost anglers, not all match anglers are selfish competitive anglers who take everything and the kitchen sink with them, not all commercial anglers enjoy catching 400lb+ of carp, not all pleasure anglers are mindless drunk yobbos who do not respect nature.........................theres good and bad in all types (ive not even mentioned fly or sea fishing!)
Note i have not referenced any people or posts in the above statement!
cant we all just go fishing and enjoy it???
I have had lovely days catching gudgeon on light tackle ,I was after roach and perch but them little gudgeon cant half scrap for their size lolI find you get quite a satisfying scrap off a 4-6oz fish on a proper silvers float rod like an acolyte, obviously not a fight in the true meaning of the word but enough to not literally be able to just wind them in like a 2oz blade or you'd bump a few off.
Is amazing how quickly you can get small commercial carp in on the right sort of gear though. When I fished for 2-4 pounders a couple weeks ago they were taking I guess up to nearly a minute on a cadence CR10 #1 so I switched to daiwa ninja and they came in not far off as easy as 4-6oz roach would on an acolyte. Was quite shocked by the difference it made and from that I could see how the massive weights can be achieved.
The most sensible limit in these times is the amount you can lift out un aided .I've just read this and it makes sense to me....
Tunnel Barn Farm
We had an issue on Tuesday with some of the anglers being unable to get their nets out of the water. In normal circumstances we would always help with this, but due to Covid 19 / social distancing guidelines we can no longer do this. If you cannot get your net out of the water we will not be able to weigh you in.
Therefore for the time being we are changing our keepnet rules from Thursday 4th June.
The maximum you will be allowed in one net is now 50lb. We will allow a 10% tolerance on this. Please ensure that you sink enough nets. If it looks like you are going over in your nets and you don't have another, then contact the shop.
It is something I've come across several times when doing weigh-ins, especially when the angler is elderly or has physical issues preventing them from lifting their nets from the water.
50lb is still some weight to lift, especially as a deadlift with water to contend with - what do you feel is a fair weight and if you couldn't lift your own nets would it stop you match fishing?
Fantastic venues but nothing like the amount of big matches there used to be,especially now the forty foot is off limits. I’d be all over them like a rash if they started having any amount of anglers turn up. Brilliant venues,all of them.
Absolutely, a huge proportion of commercial game fisheries are just that and I choose to ignore them. I get little satisfaction from catching trout that have never seen a hook in their lives before. Other fly fishers do enjoy it and similarly survive as commercial coarse fisheries do.
Do you want to remind me why silver fish commercials fail again? That’s the problem.And if other anglers feel the same then numbers won't increase. Face plant moment?
With that attitude you are part of the problem, not the solution.
I must say that I'm really disappointed by the absence of the Barbel police ..... or have they changed their mind?from my username ... I am no fan of carp for match fishing - it's one of the reasons that has killed the large open match circuit that i grew up with.
But in the end it is a comparative test of skill (and luck) whatever the weights.
The reason the match anglers catch so much is that they are MUCH more skilled than the average punter at catching lots - the stocking levels are mostly designed to give those average punters a decent days fishing - so not really the fault of the match anglers.
We have a choice - there are still matches on "natural" fisheries that you can choose to fish. My top match weight on such a water is still about 50 pounds - and I have won a fair few opens over the years.
As Neil of the Nene points out - there are very few who choose to avoid the carp-dominated venues.
Couple of points on keepnets
1. large muscular fish will suffer a lot less damage than smaller, delicate ones. So mixing carp and roach is not a great idea, for example
2. in my experience, as a muscular fish, barbel do not suffer in keepnets (other than larger mesh - getting the dorsal spine caught). The problem is generally with people who play them too gently and let them wear temselves out. In fact - holding them in a keepnet in flowing water can be an excellent way to help recovery.
As GOzzer2 says about 40 odd years ago all game fishing was catch and kill, even in rivers with both Salmon and Trout. You could almost draw a circle on the map around the commercial trout fisheries down south that are now put and take (catch & kill) only fisheries, with a few exceptions on the perimeter. This is purely a business strategy to make the fish easier to catch for the big money customers. £70 upwards to catch 4 fish is something that I don't want to do that often.How many trout that you catch have seen a hook before? Not being a game angler I am ignorant of the amount of catch and release that is practiced. I thought most game fishing involved taking the fish caught.