Selling a house - the Legal Forms

fredradac

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jul 7, 2003
Messages
1,011
The good lady and I decided earlier this year that downsizing would be a good idea. After a few trials and tribulations we accepted an offer on our present house and now the forms keep coming from our solicitor. I have sold houses in the past, the previous one was 10 years ago, but have never had so much annoying paperwork as now. The example below is hypothetical but not that far from the truth!

How many properties within a 5 mile radius of the property being sold have fitted at least one replacement toilet seat since July 2005?
You must include a copy of the B-O-G Standard Certificate (as specified by EU KRAP legislation, 2004) for each such replacement. If you are unable to produce all such certificates then you must make a 5H1TE declaration. Please note that all 5H1TE forms carry a nominal charge. As of March 2018 this charge is £729 (plus VAT where applicable).
 

nutmeg

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 31, 2008
Messages
5,803
How much per letter or email is your solicitor charging you? Its a simple way of them to build up the final bill.
We are exchanging contracts on friday for our previous property, so looking forward to cancelling all the direct debits that we are stilll paying on it, and finally not wasting money needlessly.
 

Dusty

Regular member
Joined
Jan 16, 2019
Messages
2,393
When we bought our house we had an absolute nightmare with our solicitors. Absolutely no communication throughout the entire process despite them coming highly recommended.
When we were about ready to exchange contracts I rang to check all was in order only to be informed that the solicitors has merged with another firm and changed their name, as such all the mortgage paperwork had to be re-written which delayed matters further.
They had known about the merger and the effects it would have but never mentioned it at any point in the process.
 

fredradac

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jul 7, 2003
Messages
1,011
Seem to remember a campaign about 5 years ago which was calling for legal work to be made more accessible, ie cheaper, to Joe Public. It would appear that they didn't succeed.
 

Maesknoll

Chris
Staff member
Site Supporter
Joined
Aug 22, 2006
Messages
8,178
Last time I moved, I went with a specialist house conveyancer, she looked totally disorganised, ‘entertaining’ (mad as a hatter) had a fag going in her office, piles of paperwork everywhere, but it went through as sweet as you like within a month. That was 7 years ago.
 

Silverfisher

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Mar 10, 2019
Messages
9,839
Having had a failed attempt at becoming a lawyer myself I can confirm most conveyancing lawyers are only doing it because it is easier than making it in the world of big business commercial law. 2 of my best mates are property lawyers and they are honestly only doing it as it’s cushty way of making a living compared to a proper techy lawyer. They are absolute gems of blokes but they’ll freely admit that their professions are all about making mountains out of molehills.
 

The Landlord

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jul 26, 2018
Messages
4,612
I was a mortgage broker for 20 years & spent 20 years, tearing my hair out at the antics of the lawyers. They're the last ones to do any work in the transaction & the first ones to get paid. One of the problems is the fact that the underpaid minions do all the work and at the last minute & then the solicitor will pick the file up in the last few days & find something like the problems in the OP. Used to boil my P*ss. Been on the receiving end a few times as a seller, buyer & broker.
 

Neil ofthe nene

Doing things differently.
Site Supporter
Joined
May 4, 2009
Messages
22,790
Given my experience of lawyers over the last twelve months I have come to the conclusion they are all assholes.
 

toryboy

Regular member
Joined
Jun 12, 2005
Messages
601
My last house move they sent me an incorrect bill 3 times and lost 5k I sent them! Other than that they had been great.....
 

willothewisp

willothewisp
Site Supporter
Joined
Feb 10, 2010
Messages
1,385
Given my experience of lawyers over the last twelve months I have come to the conclusion they are all assholes.
I wouldn't say "ALL" Neil, but "as near as damn'it" all! As others say above, they make mountains out of molehills, all under the guise of making sure "everything is legally correct". and dress everything up in convoluted language to bluff Joe Public into accepting their "expertise", and paying handsomely for it!
 

Sportsman

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2008
Messages
7,855
Hypothetical question.
You are in a conflict and you jump into a foxhol;e where you find Adolf Hitler, Osama Bin Laden and a lawyer, but you only have two bullets.
What should you do?

Shoot the lawyer.......
....... Twice
 

Arry

Aitch, Cantankerous old gimmer with "Views"
Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 30, 2015
Messages
7,587
Lawyers are conclusive evidence that you can get pregnant via anal sex
 

gingert76

Facts, Stats & Evidence!
Site Supporter
Joined
Dec 3, 2002
Messages
3,951
have moved 2 times in the last 5 years and house is back on the market, its not that painful to be honest, have a house folder with every bit of info in it and keep every bit of paper, used purple bricks and dead easy and hoping to sell with springbok and all the solicitor stuff and forms are online and as long as you have printer/scanner its dead simple and never head any problems
 

Neil ofthe nene

Doing things differently.
Site Supporter
Joined
May 4, 2009
Messages
22,790
1. Solicitor has so far taken over a year to liquidate an investment that formed part of my late mother in law's estate. Admittedly Zurich insurance are a nightmare but no progress seems to take place until I chase the solicitor for an update.

2. Son put an offer on a house in March. By August the solicitor he was advised to use had done nothing. Switched solicitor on my advice.

3. Solicitor wants complete financial disclosure from me and The Boss because we have given our children substantial sums to help with their house purchases. I have done all the work yet the solicitor charges me £150 + VAT for me to prove I am not a criminal money launderer. The info they have demanded would be a goldmine to a criminal. Yet I have no way of knowing how safe my data is with them. They then asked for financial details from my sister in law/son's aunt - long story.

4. Son's vendor's solicitor discovered at the last minute that the vendor had a defective title to the property being sold. Unknown delay predicted so son cancelled the purchase and has started again with a new property. Meanwhile he has had to rent a property as the Army would not let him stay in their accommodation after med. discharging him. Now mortgage offer has expired and he is having problems getting a new one.

Any wonder solicitors are not on my Christmas card list?
 

John Step

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Nov 29, 2016
Messages
977
I sold my last house without buying a new one. I gave my parents address as the place to send all paperwork and receipts. The dopey solicitor sent the final paperwork to the house I had just sold.

When buying my current house as a non mortgage cash buyer the dopey solicitor went on holiday leaving the exchange and completion to a pimply yoof in a different office in a different town.
They had my cheque cashed for a fortnight before completion. Guess what..on the Friday at 2Pm I phoned to check up and nothing had been done.

I am afraid I used phrases to the pimply yoof like " I have nowhere to go. Its the weekend coming up" and " You have had my money for 2 weeks and so sort it out or I will come up there to see you and you wont enjoy the visit"

You know what. It was exchanged at 2.30Pm and completed at 2.32 PM. Just goes to show how much time they actually need to earn their hundreds of pound fees.

I thought I was just unlucky but reading others posts here it seems there is common level of incompetence.
 

62tucker

Regular member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 30, 2010
Messages
15,078
Going to see solicitor tomorrow with forms to seek my late parents house. Accepted a offer so wish me luck.
 

Dave

Red Leader
Staff member
Site Supporter
Joined
Aug 8, 2001
Messages
66,273
Make sure you get a fixed conveyancing quote off them before giving them your instructions
 
Top