Rod advice for session tomorrow - Tench/Carp/Bream

Neskin

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Right, bit of advice from you lot if you'd be so kind!

Fishing a lake tomorrow with a good head of carp bream tench and everything else. Carp go up to 30lb, tench up to 9lb. I’m ideally after the tench but ill take anything that swims.

I’ve found a little swim with a lovely overhanging branch that I've seen fish group up at. Probably about 20 metres out right in front of the swim I’ll be in. Off down there tonight to rake it and spomb some pellet hemp and corn in.

There's quite a bit of weed in the shallows out to the right of the spot I'm looking to fish. Ill be fishing a helicopter rig with buoyant maggot/corn or banded pineapple bandem

I'm unsure of what rod to use (as I need to buy more)

Either –

11 foot Drennan Specialist Avon – 1.25lb with 8lb line
Or
10 foot Wychwood agitator bait rod 2.75 with 12lb line

I’m tempted to use the Avon but I’m wondering if its got enough grunt to be able to handle one of the bigger carp as id need to keep them out of the weed to the right of the island/overhang. But I think the 2.75 is overgunning it.

I’m in the market for some new rods to cover this sort of fishing so I’m limited to choices at the minute.

I don’t have a middle ground rod unfortunately.

Any help would be appreciated!
 

rudd

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The Avon with 8lb line should be good - dont be scared to play anything hooked hard.
An avon and 8lb line act like a massive elastic band!

Rig wise, as not a big chuck - Would consider using a naked chod rig, basically a helicopter rig with hook and beads further up lkne from lead and no lead core.
 

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Avon rod all day long. The other rod would be massively overkill for anything under 30lb.
 

Neskin

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Thanks lads,

Thats what i was thinking of, i was just concerned of hit and hold if a bigger carp came in but chances are that wont happen and if i spend all day catching smaller bream on a 2.75 itll lose its entertainment value pretty soon!

Im not au fait with carp rigs but i know the chod so ill have a look at that too.

Ive never carp fished, i river fish most of the time. Looking to get into it this year using this lake as a proving ground as its close to my house.
 

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Thanks lads,

Thats what i was thinking of, i was just concerned of hit and hold if a bigger carp came in but chances are that wont happen and if i spend all day catching smaller bream on a 2.75 itll lose its entertainment value pretty soon!

Im not au fait with carp rigs but i know the chod so ill have a look at that too.

Ive never carp fished, i river fish most of the time. Looking to get into it this year using this lake as a proving ground as its close to my house.

Helicopter rigs are decent for what you describe. The Korum heli kits are decent as well.
 

Neskin

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Got some of the korum heli kits which ive used before, theyre cracking.

Imitation buoyant maggots on a blobbed loop so i know its always fishing as theres a lot of small roach in the lake.

Going to invest in a couple of decent carp rods to chase down some of the bigger fish in there.
 

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Why not fish 2 rods? The wychwood agitator bivvy boy style with a massive donkey choker of a boillie on for the bigger fish and the avon set up lighter?
 

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Why not fish 2 rods? The wychwood agitator bivvy boy style with a massive donkey choker of a boillie on for the bigger fish and the avon set up lighter?

Pokey swim, only one bite alarm and bobbin. Still a relatively new concept for me so id prefer to have one rod fishing correctly than two half arsed if that makes sense.
 

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Carp rods are intentionally stiff to cast the weights carp anglers use, not to land the fish. The Avon will handle most things that swim in UK freshwaters.
 

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Carp rods are intentionally stiff to cast the weights carp anglers use, not to land the fish. The Avon will handle most things that swim in UK freshwaters.
Indeed

I really don’t understand this fashion for high test curve rods ....unless you are casting heavy weights a long way....and even then, in most cases, you really don’t need to fish at long range anyway.
 

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Yeah I agree. You don’t see people fishing with 12ft 80g casting feeder rods on your average sized lake so it it’s bizarre that some carpers feel the need to use 12ft 2lb plus test curve carp rod on such waters.
 

Neskin

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Appreciate your help guys, as usual!

Had a couple of fish saturday on a short session. Back out there again tonight doing a bit of margin fishing up against some of the lillies in a shallow bay. Ive had no luck recently with surface fishing for the carp so im going to have a crack and some simple margin fishing close in to see if i can wangle a fish.

Currently up to 20 mosquito bites.
 
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