Roach Reflections Part 15 - Hemp and Tares

Dave

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I haven't used Tares for a long time Mark. It certainly bought back a few memories.
 

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Mark,
I applaud your videos on roach and would make the following comments.

Having fished the basically the tidal Trent exclusively from age 12 until 24, and then the non-tidal reaches above Collingham and around Newark for the next 50 years, almost exclusively on Tares and Hemp, and still do, there are several differences I use and I give the reasons.

a) I always feed then cast, as opposed to your method of casting and then pouching the seeds over. I found that the sound of the seeds seemed to encourage the roach (and Carp when fishing in commercials) to raise to the bait and then follow the seeds down. Feeding quickly and casting, allowed my seed to be with the falling particles, since the seed and styl weights would soon catch up the fluttering bait. Often bites would be on the drop as well. I seemed to find in the Trent that casting first and then feeding only bought less bites. However I suppose to some extent it is what you feel confident with.

b) I now always use the pin method for placing my hemp on the hook. I always try to source the bigger hemp for this as most of the cheaper shop bought hemp is very small. As you will be aware, Hemp in the good old days, used to be nearly as big as the tares, but this is seldom found these days. So I always either riddle my better quality hemp and boil this separately, perhaps a cupful, and might have 3 pints of smaller as feed.

I was taught these methods by Steve Calcott Snr, who fished for Sheffield in the 60's. He took my to the river, when he ever came to Sutton on Trent, to collect wicker fishing baskets which my father made. I consider hemp and tare fishing some of the better fishing you can do, tutoring many on this aspect, including a well known Scottish Captain (well to me he was) when we fished together in our late teens and early 20's and that more famous angler "Banksy" who posts on here :)

I always, always use a size 14 hook, B611, and as stated use the pin method, I find it may stay on for 30 fish, so what I may lose in the odd missed bite because of hook size, I find is made up by the ability to recast without re-hemping the hook or quickly change over to a tare.

Still trying to post the pictures !!!!!!1

Have to reduce the file size - I will be back

I've not dropped off - having trouble formatting an old document to fit on here.
 
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Well we will try here - timed out to edit above. :eek: :coffee:
 

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Barbelcatcher

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Mark,

Do you fancy a day here and me to fish where you do? Quite like the looks of your water.

Peter
 

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MarkW: Very interesting thanks for that guys. ...Great content
May I add the following.............if inserting the hook in the slit I tippex the shank of the hook thus imitating the white shoot.
and again if inserting, the shank side of the hook is best kept toward the blunt end/side of the seed,( it has a stronger grip there)

If preparing tares I find that by casseroling them ( in water,covered in the oven,) they will cook perfectly with no splits. Keep them damp after that and in the sun they will darken...I find it doesn't make much difference to the fishing.
Totally agree with barbelcatcher about the feeding first and then casting(y)

Love your videos Mark and to let you know I subscribe to your channel...well done mate....I used to have a Wimborne book and fished those stretches many years ago..............( before the bypass was built)............ wish I knew then what I know now!

Don't worry too much about the spelling and grammar B/c as long as we understand that's what is important....( it was good by the way! ).
 

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The little bit of video I used from the Stour doesn't tell the true story. If you attempt to feed then cast where do you put the float and rig? In this swim the fastest current is under your feet where it's very weedy so the rig is caught up in a couple of seconds if left in the water.
The dace are also a problem, chewing a tare in half as quick as you can blink right on the surface; the roach are deeper and much easier to hit.
 
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