Reel Suggestions for Fox Horizon x4 2.75lb and 1.75/2.25lb rods

EdBray

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Hi All,

Getting my stuff together for when we are allowed out again, having just bought the 2 rods above I was thinking of pairing them with my Shimano GT3500 reels (circa early 1990s), but reading various comments its suggested that these will be too small for Barbel fishing on rivers, (I have had Carp on them up to 28lb though).

Could you give me ideas of medium priced baitrunner type reels (£50-£80) and the recommended size (was thinking 4500 -5000) which would be suitable for use with the above rods.

They don't have to be Shimano, but I would just like to get a set of quality reels that will last me (hopefully) as long as my GT3500s have (which would take me up to about 90 years old).

Would be used on Wye, Wark Avon and Severn.

TIA, Eddie
 

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The current range of shimano bait runners get good reviews and fit the price range and are available in both 4000 and 5000 I believe so would be ideal for you. Only bait runner I use is I believe a fox stratos in the 5000 size which was in that sort of price range. Doesn't get used often but I use it for sharking so if it can stand up to that I'm sure they'd handle barbel.
 

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I used to use 3500 Baitrunners for carp and they were fine.

With sensible line (10-12lb) they will be fine for river barbel fishing.

if you really want a new reel, consider a Shimano 4000 size fighting drag reel. IMO they are much more versatile than baitrunners for general specialist angling.
 

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The current range of shimano bait runners get good reviews and fit the price range and are available in both 4000 and 5000 I believe so would be ideal for you. Only bait runner I use is I believe a fox stratos in the 5000 size which was in that sort of price range. Doesn't get used often but I use it for sharking so if it can stand up to that I'm sure they'd handle barbel.

Unfortunately Shimano stopped making the 5000 series of baitrunners a while ago Silver so Eddie would have to look on eBay for one of those, however a 4000 series would be fine if a 5000 reel was hard to source.
A 6000 series baitrunner reel is a bit on the too large side really.

Although a baitrunner is handy it’s not really necessary for Barbel fishing as you wouldn’t normally fish with the baitrunner function on for Barbel.

Keith
 

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For those rods I'd look at 5500 or 6000 size reels Shimano make a 6000 runner quite cheaply
 

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....Well as you have Fox rods, why not fox reels i have a pair of these (10000 size) on my Sonik Vader X's 12Ft 2.75lbs and they have been flawless:


They have updated them recently so good prices on the old model

Reel size is subjective between manufacturers - the 10000 from fox is only a bit bigger than a 5000 from Diawa
 

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You've got me doubting the size of the fox reel I use now @DomCrtr1975 it looks like a 5000 or 6000 but may well be classed as something else from what you said. It's got about 300 yards of 30lb braid on one spool and the other spool is the same size and has about 200 yards of 12lb mono if that gives any clues.
 

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You've got me doubting the size of the fox reel I use now @DomCrtr1975 it looks like a 5000 or 6000 but may well be classed as something else from what you said. It's got about 300 yards of 30lb braid on one spool and the other spool is the same size and has about 200 yards of 12lb mono if that gives any clues.
Well, its a well known fact that there isn't any regulated/given measure for reels, manufacturers work independently but the general consensus within the brand/model line is bigger the number the larger the reel and invariably larger spool capacity.

As i said "the 10000 from Fox is only a bit bigger than a 5000 from Diawa" and not to say they are the same but.......

Not wanting to muddy the waters, i stated that the Fox Eos 10000 wasn't much bigger than a Diawa 5000 (as i own both including a Black Widow BR 5000 as well); so these are both front drag, with free-spool facility carp reels, so to compare

Diawa Black Widow BR 5000
Line capacity 14lb-310m

Fox EOS 10000 spool capacity
Line capacity 0.33mm – 320m

given that the Gardner Pro line i use is 0.30mm @12 lb breaking strain you can see there is much difference!

hope this helps
 
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Okuma inception 6000.
Pick them up for 49 quid in bobco
A lot of reel for the money
Not too big not too small
Will be good on the 2.75 for casting but not too big for the lighter rods
 

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..And after all my waffling, pictures speak louder than words

Diawa 5000 BR on the left - FOX EOS 10000 on the right

Diawa reel has it's spool at full oscillation (my bad!!) against the Fox but size wise you get the idea


.... and Yes i'm left handed!!!
 

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I use the Shimano DL4000FB which are brilliant but usually pair them with lower test curve rods.. I’m not sure if they would be out of place on a 2.75lb rod.
 

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....Well as you have Fox rods, why not fox reels i have a pair of these (10000 size) on my Sonik Vader X's 12Ft 2.75lbs and they have been flawless:


They have updated them recently so good prices on the old model

Reel size is subjective between manufacturers - the 10000 from fox is only a bit bigger than a 5000 from Diawa

I’ve got a Fox eos10000 and it’s the same size as my Korum 5000 reels. The Fox is a cracking reel, one of the best baitrunners available IMO.
 

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Hi edbray, I've also bought a pair of the fox 2.75s and I intend to pair them with shimano 5500 lc medium baitrunner sized but they will be slightly more than you want to pay, I wouldn't pair them with the 4000 series as would be like sending a child to do a man's job , I think maybe dl6000 rbs might be worth a look but they have rear drag and twin handles which personally I don't like, keep away from the st range as they have only one bearing where the dls have four. I also have a pair of okuma baitrunners albeit only a cheaper version but really like them and excellent quality for the money had them for six years and no sign of waining yet , I would not hesitate in buying a pair of okuma of better quality but in my opinion shimano are tops and even they are not what they used to be but in general you get what you pay for
 

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Agree with barbel tamer but was trying to keep in your budget. If going down the shimano road you will be hard pressed to buy better reels for the money than the 6000oc. I have them and used then with braid for pike and also with 12lb on some tench and bream rods. They are very well made. Front drag. And for the money as good as anything out there... along with the inceptions you habe 2 really robust reels that will last and perform... u can pick of the ocs for around 90... maybe cheaper with a discount in an easter sale..
I have always been a shimano man but been impressed with various okuma reels I have brought over the past few years. The okuma helios I got for spinning is as good as a shimano costing twice the money ....
 

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4000/6000 Shimanos. Size dependent on rivers targeting of course and the subsequent weight and bait being cranked. Tip. If you are targeting the larger rivers, the adjustable free runner setting is a big thing imo, otherwise with just an on or off, you may find that with it on, current just pulls the free runner around. For that reason, the STRBs are good for me.
 
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