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Angling has always been the largest participant sport and various angling bodies have tried to promote the sport over the years... and latterly the NFA and AT have tried to swell their ranks using coaches to try and encourage folks onto the bank.... The kit can be dead cheap at the bottom end, but eye-wateringly expensive at the mid - upper end... I would like to see the tackle industry getting into the game rather than sitting back and raking in the profits... with companies like Angling Direct acquiring shops left right and center I feel that as a major player they and the manufacturers could do more to encourage folks onto the banks... rather than relying on volunteers from the AT..... wotcher fink....?
 

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Fisheries could do a lot more to encourage "new anglers" as the cost to fish somewhere is one of the main contributors towards young kids not being able to go.
Massively reduced or even "free days" to encourage the next generation would be a step in the right direction and especially if it's on a Commie where the interest in catching is more likely to be ensured.
 

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Not just manufacturers, but tackle shops too could play a part by offering coaching for those new to angling. I'm sure that there's some very good anglers that would offer to do it.
 

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the problem there is you need a qualification to do it properly... and ALL coaches need DBS approval
 

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I agree with every single word above but, having been in business for 35+ years you would be surprised at how much it costs just to stand still. I'm not saying everyone but, do we not often bite the hand we expect to throw some cash our way ? Expecting / hoping that tackle shops throw some money in when we all search high and low for the cheapest deal ? How can we expect them to have some spare cash when most are ( at best ) treading water.
 

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Expecting / hoping that tackle shops throw some money in when we all search high and low for the cheapest deal ? How can we expect them to have some spare cash when most are ( at best ) treading water.

I didn't mention tackle shops throwing money away, I was thinking that tackle shops could advertise the fact that coaching could be made available (should any coaches are around that particular area).
 

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Denis white used to run workshops for young anglers all in his own time I have a colleague that attended them......... Denis told me himself that he packed in doing it because of the problems getting insurance........big shame
 

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I've long held the belief that the financial burden of ensuring the longer term future of angling should be shouldered largely by those with the most (financially) to gain. It may not be the reality, but it often seems to be individual anglers that it costs, through the AT, EA and clubs. Not surprisingly, many individual anglers don't really care for the future of angling beyond their lifetime. New anglers benefit them not one jot. Quite the opposite, hordes of newcomers may actually be to the detriment of their fishing. I doubt that too many will actively begrudge their money being spent to encourage new anglers, but I'd bet that most would prefer to see it pay for fish stocking, should they have the choice.
 

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Lot of truth in all of that and IMO there is always the spectre that an angling ban could be a distinct possibility in the future.
As long as those in the financial chain continue to make money they will only concentrate on the now and near future.
 

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I agree with every single word above but, having been in business for 35+ years you would be surprised at how much it costs just to stand still. I'm not saying everyone but, do we not often bite the hand we expect to throw some cash our way ? Expecting / hoping that tackle shops throw some money in when we all search high and low for the cheapest deal ? How can we expect them to have some spare cash when most are ( at best ) treading water.
I can understand that to a degree... small independent dealers are not the target of my comments... I'm talking about bigger firms like Angling Direct, Go-Outdoors, and Decathlon... large companies involved in fishing... maybe if licence sales were allowed by commercial outlets to help prospective anglers have a one stop shop for the sport..? or manufacturers making up learners kits (I know Korum and Maver do) or perhaps firms like AD put together starter kits for a set price...

I'm thinking Rod & reel or Pole, chair or box, rigs & disgorgers, or floats leads and hooks and some literature or instructional DVD... too often I have seen shop lads trying to sell top end gear to a beginner's parent, with little or no help or backup... it makes me mad knowing some lad/lass is going to head out on the bank with totally unsuitable gear only for them to pack in disheartened and walk away from the sport... maybe fisheries could get in on the act with a dedicated coach on the banks, instead of some bloke sat in the hut watching porn on his phone and only looking up to take the money (yes I have seen this) or wobbling round on a quad bike being rude and only getting off it because he can't reach your outstretched tenner (yup seen that too)
 

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Denis white used to run workshops for young anglers all in his own time I have a colleague that attended them......... Denis told me himself that he packed in doing it because of the problems getting insurance........big shame

It wasn't Dennis himself that had problems, it was the owner of the fishery (Fleets Dam) that wouldn't pay out for it. He told Dennis that if he wanted to carry on with it, then he'd have to pay the insurance.
 

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I think angling is where it is ! I don’t think it will ever be a big money high prestige sport..... it has many different aspects to it and is loved by millions of people world wide but I honestly think it’s never going to go much further than it has already.
As for getting youngsters into it ....... again difficult to gauge....... I fish most weeks and a lot of different venues but I can’t honestly remember seeing more than 1 youngster on the bank in the last 12months.
As for who is responsible for anglers turning up and getting into angling ..... we all should have some sort of input ? Even by being on this forum and I know many of you are all too willing to give advice in order to help others which is a positive step.
I’ve seen guys on here offering free tackle to help others with there angling ?
There have been quite a few asking for advice on teaching youngsters ?
A quote that always rings true is ...... the youngsters are the future....?
 

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There's probably more being done than people think, over the course of the school summer holidays Angling Direct got together with Garbolino and ran this promotion.....

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and they handed out 6600+ kits which I think is a great initiative to get youngsters to give angling a go. :upthumb:

On a smaller scale I know that Alders Farm Fishery host local schools for a days introduction to fishing and I believe that Garbolino have helped out with kit to make this possible along with Fishery staff and venue regulars who have attended to make sure that the kids have a great day.

Just a couple of instances but I'm sure that there are many more that don't receive the publicity thy deserve,;)
 

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It wasn't Dennis himself that had problems, it was the owner of the fishery (Fleets Dam) that wouldn't pay out for it. He told Dennis that if he wanted to carry on with it, then he'd have to pay the insurance.
Would that be a certain Mr A H Peter ?
 

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I personally think the younger generation are just not bothered about fishing. And a lot of thing we use to. If you wanted to go fishing it is alot more accable now than it use to be. All you can really do is encourage your younger ones to go they may not take it up for long but in time may go back to it.
 

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It would be he sir. 3 or 4 months after he bought it.
Not like he was ever short of a bob or two was it ? I should have known as when I was in the Barnsley juniors Dick asked me and a lad called Tony Barrat to bank run for them on the Yorkshire Ouse. A H took us in his van. When we got back later that day he asked us to chip in for petrol money. We were 13 and 14 years old at the time. Incredible. What a ####.
 

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Too busy on games consoles, computers etc. Or creating havoc on street corners somewhere. Personally I think that the post that @Peter put up about Garbolino was a step forward and I just think that if all tackle manufacturers put up similar things, but do it in an exhibition centre in various towns/cities like a touring thing, then things may just alter.
 

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Not like he was ever short of a bob or two was it ? I should have known as when I was in the Barnsley juniors Dick asked me and a lad called Tony Barrat to bank run for them on the Yorkshire Ouse. A H took us in his van. When we got back later that day he asked us to chip in for petrol money. We were 13 and 14 years old at the time. Incredible. What a ####.

Indeed mate, never liked him since he put the day ticket up by a third then kept the gate locked until bang on time instead of letting people into the car park to get sorted.
 
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