if you find the particles too big in the pigeon mix, try the various feeds they do for canaries and finches also budgie food.
I go to a pet supplies and get mine. they work out at 99p/kilo. This season i experimented with canary conditioning feed which is black and smells of aniseed and loose millet, which is tiny and golden.
I mix it thus...
a two gallen bucket with lid
half a bag of the black aniseed stuff
half a bag of millet
a full bag (kilo) of hemp
a handful of dried maize
Then i pour boiling water over the lot, put on the lid, and let it stand 24 hours.
Then i pour the water away, add more, and boil the mix in a very large pan, for about half hour, or until the hemp is well open, when it cools you are left with a very sticky mix, ready to use or freeze.
when i'm on the bank I then add chopped boilies, micro pellets, and if i'm balling it in, as much crushed hemp as i can get in and just enough brown crumb to bind it.
I found this keeps fish in and around the swim all day.
I do very similar to crusty. I buy various bird seed mixes and wheat and groats. Hemp I prepare seperatly and when cooked its bagged up and frozen. The seed mixes are then mixed soaked cooked and again bagged up. All the seeds have an Archie Braddock flavour added at the soaking stage. Doing it this way I can then vary the mix, pure hemp on lakes say or a complete mix for on the river. The percentages vary as I feel are required.
You've probably all ready done it but check with your grain supplier as the Hemp we use in fishing is the same stuff as used for feeding various Birds and is treated so it will not grow into the Drug plant, so you may find that you can get some.
Malc - some states over here are starting to look at the issue and a couple have even passed very recent laws allowing cultivation and use of hemp if using seeds with very low TCH content.
My home state isn't among them though. The laws here dealing with hemp are not reasoned things but more knee-jerk reflex bans. Sort of hemp=drug=bad=illegal. No provision made for sterile seed, seeds with very low TCH concentration, or anything else. And bird food sold here can't contain even a smidgen of the stuff.
I do not know a substitute for hemp, Newt, but this link suggests that there are cooked hemp variants available for fishing in the US. It doesn't mention restrictions in different states, but maybe the author doesn't know this. [?]
Lid (said while ROFLMAO, gasping, and generally making a fool of myself) - thanks for that link. Wonderful how information travels around the internet and how easy it is to ignore or just not find stuff.
That page is owned and maintained by Oatmeal Jack and I post regularly to a carping email list where he is a mod. The bait shop, Wacker Baits, is owned by another of the regulars, Paul Pazella. In Chicago, IL and over 1000 miles from me but Paul does lots of mail order and except for a strange liking for Fox gear, he is good people.
And I never knew Oat recommended and Paul sold and PESCAVIVA distributed a "hemp" seed made from marijuana seeds. Have to ask them since I'm sure that at least Paul knows the regulations for most states.
Thank you for pointing me to that one. Proof positive that the internet is shrinking the world.
(edit note - emailed Paul with the question. Got the following response and have ordered some of this lovely stuff along with a particle mix he does up that also has some)
quote:Hemp seed is legal everywhere in the USA, it is 0.00% THC. I have both canned Pescaviva hempseed at $3.00 per can and dry seed at $11.59 for a 5 lb bag. The dry needs to be cooked, canned is ready to use.
Both products are imported and are declared at customs so the government does know all about it.
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