Landing net thread size. ?

BarryS

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I have a couple of landing net handles with the "female" thread to take the brass thread of the actual landing net. I'm guessing this may be a standard thread.
I bought a Nash solid frame net from and it broke at the joint between handle / net on the first fish.....It didn't actually break the joint to the plastic net just pulled out...leaving the brass thread still in the handle....Total Fishing Tackle supplied another and the second one came apart at the same place again with the first fish caught. The thread into the handle is over an inch long and locks up well. But the other end of the brass that is fixed into the plastic "Y" is just 11mm long and is a friction push-fit spline fitting...can't even see any glue .....Useless
This net claims to be able to hold 30lb carp....the net itself is a nice shape and is fine. But the handle to net joint is very suspect. In both cases I lifted the fish from the water with my hand inside the net .....I would never put undue pressure on the joint. Didn't lift the fish back in it had already come apart on the landing mat...both times.
Total fishing Tackle are refusing to pay more than £7.50 for the return of the net..and its too big for the post office...Nash has been OK and said they would report the "design issue "up the line" but this doesn't help me. It's a bad design. Angling direct will not settle for a photograph they want back...but are not willing to pay.

However if someone could describe the thread size I could get a bolt drill out the plastic "Y" and improve the design ...making it stronger and not have all the hassle I am currently getting. Wish I had bought it from BobCo.

So a bolt description that will fit into a standard net handle please :) Its actually going on to the Gardner Specialist landing net handle XT
 

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Just a suggestion, have you thought about drilling and tapping the back of the insert with something like M8 thread, and then putting an M8 bolt through the spreader block, adding some Araldite and then pulling the insert into place and locking it in with the bolt?

It would be easier than trying to locate a 3/8" BSF bolt or die to rethread a bolt or some rod
 

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My experience of trying to buy a 3/8 thread male or female is a story in itself. The internet is your only answer. The B& Q s of this world only stock metric sizes. Good luck.
 

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This is what I was thinking....seems there are 3/8 BSF bolts/ threaded rods on ebay...in stainless or brass.....and Im not so hot on tapping new threads........what do you think ?
 

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If going down the glued route then the all threaded bolt would be a better option as the thread will provide a key for the glue.
 

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This is what I was thinking....seems there are 3/9 BSF bolts/ threaded rods on ebay...in stainless or brass.....and Im not so hot on tapping new threads........what do you think ?
As you’ve found ready to go bolts then I see no reason why this shouldn’t work - just take care drilling out the hole, slow with a hand drill Id suggest, as nylon doesn’t always take well to fast drill speeds.
 

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I have a couple of landing net handles with the "female" thread to take the brass thread of the actual landing net. I'm guessing this may be a standard thread.
I bought a Nash solid frame net from and it broke at the joint between handle / net on the first fish.....It didn't actually break the joint to the plastic net just pulled out...leaving the brass thread still in the handle....Total Fishing Tackle supplied another and the second one came apart at the same place again with the first fish caught. The thread into the handle is over an inch long and locks up well. But the other end of the brass that is fixed into the plastic "Y" is just 11mm long and is a friction push-fit spline fitting...can't even see any glue .....Useless
This net claims to be able to hold 30lb carp....the net itself is a nice shape and is fine. But the handle to net joint is very suspect. In both cases I lifted the fish from the water with my hand inside the net .....I would never put undue pressure on the joint. Didn't lift the fish back in it had already come apart on the landing mat...both times.
Total fishing Tackle are refusing to pay more than £7.50 for the return of the net..and its too big for the post office...Nash has been OK and said they would report the "design issue "up the line" but this doesn't help me. It's a bad design. Angling direct will not settle for a photograph they want back...but are not willing to pay.

However if someone could describe the thread size I could get a bolt drill out the plastic "Y" and improve the design ...making it stronger and not have all the hassle I am currently getting. Wish I had bought it from BobCo.

So a bolt description that will fit into a standard net handle please :) Its actually going on to the Gardner Specialist landing net handle XT
I did put Angling Direct once in my post ....my mistake........it was Total Fishing Tackle.....not Angling Direct...who I have never had a problem with.
 

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Just a big thanks guys..........this I what I really like about this site...............ask away and members jump in with answers and suggestions :)
 

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I think I'd keep the original threaded piece and drill a hole through the spreader block to pin the piece - 2mm or 3mm max then put a small bolt through. Might even put two bolts through and Araldite it as well.
 

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I’d drill out the plastic so the bolt is a tight fit, put a flat washer on the bolt to stop it digging into plastic when tightened up. Put another washer on the bolt the same when it’s pushed through the plastic, then put a nut on the bolt with a bit of loctite, and tighten it up. O ring on the bolt up to the nut, and spin it on and off the handle as you wish.
 

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I think I'd keep the original threaded piece and drill a hole through the spreader block to pin the piece - 2mm or 3mm max then put a small bolt through. Might even put two bolts through and Araldite it as well.
Mark are you saying drill a hole through the 11mm long original splined insert ? running at right angles to the insert ?.....my issuse is that 11mm is nowhere near long enough for the handle to locate onto the Spreader block with any strangth. This has to be the weakness with this net.
 

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There is no way 11mm of insert was ever going to stay in there with any amount of weight in the net. Leverage alone will have ripped it out.

The black ring on the insert is plastic that has broken away from the spreader block. The block would have been moulded around the brass insert and there is a groove in the insert that the plastic will be moulded into to keep the insert in place.

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Mark are you saying drill a hole through the 11mm long original splined insert ? running at right angles to the insert ?.....my issue is that 11mm is nowhere near long enough for the handle to locate onto the Spreader block with any strength. This has to be the weakness with this net.
Yes that's what I'm saying but it's becoming clear that the spreader block is substandard full stop.
 

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Thanks very Interesting.....so the spreader block was actually moulded onto the brass insert ? I wondered what the black plastic was. So Nash expect 11mm of splines and a tiny depth of moulded plastic to secure the net to the handle. I always pick the fish up by holding the net itself ...to minimise any leverage between the hand and the net. But this net is sold to take 30lb carp :) Thanks for your observation. The picture shows the end of my Gardner Specialist Extending Landing net XT which is super strong and well made.... the net's brass connector screwing in well over an inch into the handle.
 

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TBH I'd be more inclined to return it as 'not fit for purpose' and get a refund rather than try to repair it.
Put the money against a net with proven reliability.
 

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I suspect the splines are to prevent the insert from rotating within the spreader block, such as when attaching the net to a handle. And as I previously posted, the groove in the insert and the plastic moulded into it are the only things by design that are preventing it from pulling free.
However the failure in the design is any weight in the net will lever the insert against the spreader block and as you've found it is only 11mm long.

A good engineer should be able to work out the forces on the plastic caused by leverage for a given weight within the net. 30lb is incredibly optimistic in my opinion.
 
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