Keeping a room warm - safely. Looking for ideas.........

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Long story short, my father in law (95 next birthday!) has lived with us now for approaching 3 years since his wife died - no problems whatsoever with that arrangement and zero propect of it changing. To be fair, the guy is an absolute diamond for many, many reasons, but we are facing a problem (again) as the cold weather approaches, and so far, despite a lot of head-scratching. cant find a workable solution.
For a variety of reasons he spends an inordinate amount of time in one room - his bedroom, and that's not likely to change in any significant way.

The problem we have is that he will very happily sit in temperatures that would shrivel a Saharan lizard - so hot that it is far from healthy - we've found him in the past (mid summer!) sat in his room, door closed, with full sunshine beaming in through closed windows, with a heater going flat-out - while wearing a thick long sleeved shirt, wool jumper, drinking hot drinks - and topped off with a thick woolen jacket more suited to a countryside walk in November. On that occasion, it was not far short of a measured 50 degrees C in there 🥵 He seems oblivious to the extreme temperatures involved - and starts to complain bitterly as the colder weather approaches (anytime around now!), despite the fact that the room NEVER falls below the mid - 20's, even during the night, and is often quite a few degrees warmer. Its quite bizarre really - in his younger days he was a scientist at the Norh Pole, literally constructing the buildings there before they could inhabit them and work there =- and hails from a part of the world (where he still lived before coming to live with us) where winter temperatures will often be 20 degrees or more below zero for extended periods of time.

What we need is some method of keeping him at a safe, comfortable temperature, including overnight, without breaking the bank. Electric blankets / extra quilts / hot water bottles etc etc are not an option. Unfortunately, there are quite a few non-negotiable 'must-haves' for any solution to be workable.
1/ Whatever the heat source is, it needs to be safe, and (very preferably) totally incapable of starting a fire. In the same vein, something that he cannot burn himself on.
2/ Something that does not need major installation / hard wiring etc.
3/ All controls MUST be in our hands, NOT his - very important, as unfortunately, we know that regardless of anything said or agreed, he will just turn a heater up / on, and leave it that way as soon as we leave the room. That includes potentially overnight - he's up and down all night, WOULD bugger about with controls, leave it switched on either intentionally or accidentally when he falls off to sleep again. Basically, it needs either a control panel that can be adjusted then literally locked away from prying fingers, or the ability to control it entirely, maybe via a Bluetooth link to an APP, or similar.
3/ It must have a timer function and the option for thermostatic control too.


Multiple Google searches over time have produced little more than severe headaches. Short of a bonfire on his bed, we seem to have run out of options - but it IS a problem that we need a solution for - does anyone have any (sensible) bright ideas please?
 

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Can't think just now of any appliance that fits the bill but one thought

Have you tried Age UK, they might be able to help with ideas as its more than likely they'll have come across similar problems before and they just might have some solutions
 

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If you find a way to highly heat rooms totally safely while not costing very much you'll become very rich.
 

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Not easy, oil / water filled rad electrical element, plugged into Wi-fi socket, also Wi-fi temp sensor controlled from your mobile phone. Not cheapest and surface temp of some heaters cannot be controlled , but it’s tamperproof and fireproof?
 

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Move him into another room. The change will trick his mind and it’ll think differently. Doing to same thing day in and it becomes routine to your mind and muscles and so they don’t work the same. That could be why his feeling cold. His body is in routine mode
 

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Has he been checked out by a GP?

It may be more of a medical issue such as hypothermia than a physical issue
(for the medics amongst us, this is a suggestion not an educated statement ;) )
 

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Has he been checked out by a GP?

It may be more of a medical issue such as hypothermia than a physical issue
(for the medics amongst us, this is a suggestion not an educated statement ;) )
Relatively speaking, he's as fit as a butchers dog Dave, eats well and is active - as long as the weather is fairly decent, he wraps up and gets out most days - he rarely walks for less than an hour a day, sometimes twice that if the weather is decent - he has an almost encyclopedic knowledge of the local area, all from memory! The problem is simply keeping the room at a decent temperature, safely, 24/7, in a way that we can control and he can't fiddle with - and every option that I think I've found anywhere has so far turned into a non-starter :D
Only option I appear to have found so far are some quite hi-tech heating panels, very thin, that need to be mounted high up, even on the ceiling would work - BUT they are a semi-permanent fixture, need hard wiring and are a long way from cheap - apparently work using infra-red radiation to heat the area, but with (apparently) no fire risk - thermostatic controls, good timer functions, and can be controlled (and monitored!) from outside the room on a dedicated bluetooth handset, or via an Android App. No-where near cheap, unfortunately :rolleyes:
 

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The problem with heating a room is once you get beyond 28+ degrees you're fighting a battle against heat loss, not only through draughts and windows but walls and ceilings. You would have to effectively create a passive environment first and then add supplement heat to it to raise it to the temperature required.
 

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Have you considered heated clothing and a blanket / duvet, then just keeping the room temperature normal.
 

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Have you considered heated clothing and a blanket / duvet, then just keeping the room temperature normal.
So far, have tried every permutation of everything we can think of.
Suspect the real problem is that he can't possibly really be cold, just thinks that he is and blindly follows what a thermometer says - if that tells him the temperatures are not high enough, he's cold. Medical checks say he's healthy, accurate digital thermometer says his body temp is spot-on.
If we remove the thermometer, he'll walk a couple of miles to a nearby shopping centre to buy another.
I'm seriously wondering whether there may be available a thermometer that would give false readings intentionally - seriously (in much the same way you can get realistic 12" rulers that are only 9" long :) )
 

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Would he be aware enough to notice if you changed the readout on the display from Celsius to Fahrenheit ?, same temp just a higher figure.
 

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So far, have tried every permutation of everything we can think of.
Suspect the real problem is that he can't possibly really be cold, just thinks that he is and blindly follows what a thermometer says - if that tells him the temperatures are not high enough, he's cold. Medical checks say he's healthy, accurate digital thermometer says his body temp is spot-on.
If we remove the thermometer, he'll walk a couple of miles to a nearby shopping centre to buy another.
I'm seriously wondering whether there may be available a thermometer that would give false readings intentionally - seriously (in much the same way you can get realistic 12" rulers that are only 9" long :) )
You can calibrate the wireless Wi-fi thermostats, my missis sets it at 24 all the time little does she know is it’s 3 deg out and is really 21 deg. Look at Neoheat been around a long time,.
 

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Have a harsh word... sometimes you just have to.. get him told to leave the thermostat alone...
 

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Can you not install a separate thermostat just in his room, but not connect it to anything - that way he can turn it right up to the desired temperature.
 
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