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andyfp

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5.09PM Mon Aug 2 2010
A conman has been sentenced to eight years in jail for possessing a stolen Shakespeare first edition and taking it abroad. The four hundred year old book went missing from Durham University twelve years ago. The judge said Raymond Scott had concocted an 'elaborate scam'.

Then this.
A body builder ex boxer fueled on drink and cocaine killed a serving soldier with one punch, and knocking out the soldiers wife.

The soldier had survived tour of duties to Iraq, Bosnia and Afhanistan, only to be murdered by a thug in Newcastle.
The murders sentence ?? 5 FRIGGING YEARS, yes 5 FRIGGING YEARS, for taking a mans life and leaving a child without her father, a woman without her husband and a family without their loved one.

Justice, a frigging mockery of justice[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
 
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zhorian

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no it's not justice ..... should there be a special court for dealing with cases of abuse against serving soldiers, sailors, airmen ... and women .... ?
 

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I dont know
Do you think there should be a special court. [?]
Why should there be. A murder is a murder, simple as that.
 
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Originally posted by andyfp


A murder is a murder, simple as that.

Not saying I agree with the sentencing, but your last sentence provides the reason.

Murder by definition is a premeditated/planned crime.

I would imagine that the worst the thug was charged with was manslaughter or unlawful killing.
 

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Yeah i agree with what Peter said.

Andy, do you have an article or anything relating to the incident? Would be interested to see just what it says, whether it was a cold blooded attack or whether the guy was provoked.
 

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BBC REPORT

A man has been jailed for killing a soldier from Pembrokeshire in a "cowardly and unprovoked attack" outside a Newcastle nightclub.

Michael Ridley assaulted Staff Sgt Chris Chacksfield, 31, outside Babylon 90 in Newgate Street on 31 May.

The 22-year-old, from Newcastle, was jailed for five years after admitting manslaughter and grievous bodily harm.
 
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manslaughter should also be the same as murder

he killed a man plain and simple

about time the country went back to the old days of the laws regarding theft,killing etc

bring back the stocks/birch for the local yobs
 

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http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/adviceandsupport/prison_life/lifesentencedprisoners/


As you will see, the maximum sentence for manslaughter is life imprisonment, the same as for murder.


5 years seems insufficient. He will do only 3 years and 9 months minus a day for every day on remand or in police custody AFTER the sentence reduction, making them effectively worth two days off for each.



I doubt he'll do 3 years [:0]
 

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i do believe that for as far back as i can remember the theft of valuables has always been viewed by the judiciary as far more serious than the taking of a life.sad isnt it ?
 

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Originally posted by andyfp

BBC REPORT

A man has been jailed for killing a soldier from Pembrokeshire in a "cowardly and unprovoked attack" outside a Newcastle nightclub.

He was a Derby lad. They lived at Breadsall Hilltop.

If you want to vent your spleens, you can do it here:

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Soldier-s-widow-disappointed-killer-gets-years-jail/article-2483993-detail/article.html
 
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Money is worth more than human life. Always has been, always will be. Its just the way the justice system is set up.
 

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And a year for this!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-10851311
 

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18 months for this:

http://www.birminghampost.net/news/west-midlands-news/2010/08/03/warwickshire-man-jailed-for-killing-wife-in-row-over-dinner-party-65233-26987512/
 

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Originally posted by Marvin Waggler

Originally posted by lurkio

And a year for this!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-10851311

Fair do's I reckon, what an idiot.

Idiot, yes. But what did he actually do? And was it more of a crime than those rewarded with community service?
 

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Three years for this:

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/City-solicitor-stole-163-43-000-help-fund-lavish-lifestyle/article-2488115-detail/article.html

Whilst, as reported in the same edition of the paper, this serial pervert gets nine months:

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Serial-pervert-attracted-girls-young-8-court-hears/article-2488130-detail/article.html
 
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Originally posted by lurkio

Originally posted by Marvin Waggler

Originally posted by lurkio

And a year for this!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-10851311

Fair do's I reckon, what an idiot.

Idiot, yes. But what did he actually do? And was it more of a crime than those rewarded with community service?

His stupid actions nearly caused a helicopter full of highly flammable fuel with passengers on board to crash in a residental area mate that's all[;)]
 
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