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johng19

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I have no trust in most garages, main dealer ones even less as everything seems to cost double.
Having trouble with my avesiss keeps conking out or the revs dying down when I stop. When it does it it might do it for about an hour on and off then not do it for a few days, tried everything i can think of now.
Just had to book it into toyota for them to have a look at it, before they can do anything it has to have a diagnostic at £99 before they even do anything. And still cant get it in till next Monday.
 

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For many years, I used to use these mobile guys who would come to your home & give it a Crypton Tune-up. Always found them cheap & reliable. Probably a few in your area.
 

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I find with main dealers if there's no fault code to work of they dismiss the car some of them won't investigate the problem the Edd China's of this world are a dying breed
 

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As in every business there are good ones and bad ones, last week my youngest daughter got her first car and she wanted a Fiat 500,(God knows why) but it had to be in one of three colours and an auto so we toddled off to a local Fiat garage that has been owned by the same family for 50 years nearly and they had the right car at slightly over book price but 3 years old with 10,000 on the clock and it was perfect for her so a deal was done on Sunday car was serviced Monday and they delivered it Tuesday as she was in work all in all a very good experience and I am sure if she still likes Fiats she will go back there as they took their time explaining various things an let her test drive the car as much as she wanted.
 

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I always go with someone who knows what they're doing as don't want them trying to charge for work that doesn't need doing.
 

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I have no trust in most garages, main dealer ones even less as everything seems to cost double.
Having trouble with my avesiss keeps conking out or the revs dying down when I stop. When it does it it might do it for about an hour on and off then not do it for a few days, tried everything i can think of now.
Just had to book it into toyota for them to have a look at it, before they can do anything it has to have a diagnostic at £99 before they even do anything. And still cant get it in till next Monday.
£99 for a diagnostic check seems like a rip off to me,I think they only plug a computor in and read the fault codes,I suppose it's paying for what they know rarher than what they do,I know little about the machanics of a car but it sounds like the same problem I had with a Vauxhall Astra which turned out to be an injector problem
 

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At the main Skoda agent they always try to add value to a service. One car only had about 8000 from new but because it was 2 years old they insisted it needed new brake fluid.
Every year there was an extra that was advisable!
After the warranty expired it went to a local garage that had a Bosch diagnostic machine and they are reliable and much cheaper.
 

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I have no trust in most garages, main dealer ones even less as everything seems to cost double.
Having trouble with my avesiss keeps conking out or the revs dying down when I stop. When it does it it might do it for about an hour on and off then not do it for a few days, tried everything i can think of now.
Just had to book it into toyota for them to have a look at it, before they can do anything it has to have a diagnostic at £99 before they even do anything. And still cant get it in till next Monday.


Used to think the same until I had a VW, service at main dealer is outstanding. Prices are competitive as well ?
 

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I remember the days when you could work on your car yourself. Used to do all sorts to my Ford Capris, escorts & cortinas.
Impossible to even an oil change on modern cars.
 

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I bought a new Volvo and on its second he service it needed two tyres.
5Yr ago I bought another new volvo and got 5yrs free service, tyres have been fine every year.
 

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I do all my own work on cars, even relatively new ones. The problem increasingly is finding information as nothing is ever published, especially when it comes to fault codes or diagnostics. Garages know this and some use that as a reason to overcharge, make up nonsense, etc.

Dealers are the worst at this. The front line staff have a script and refuse to engage in any kind of technical conversation. The fitters (they are not mechanics) only know how to read fault codes and change parts at 300% the going rate. They don't diagnose, fault find, repair or use common sense. When they run out of pages on their flow chart they hand you back to the front desk and get them to get rid of you or find a way for you to buy another car. The majority of their money is made doing absolutely nothing.

A good honest garage is worth its weight in gold, it's worth asking around as some are so busy they don't advertise, they don't have to.
 

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A few years ago I started using a local garage for servicing my wife's car. It was recommended on Honest John website under the Good Garage scheme.
Pleased to say that, so far, it's proved to be a good decision.
 

johng19

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I do all my own work on cars, even relatively new ones. The problem increasingly is finding information as nothing is ever published, especially when it comes to fault codes or diagnostics. Garages know this and some use that as a reason to overcharge, make up nonsense, etc.

Dealers are the worst at this. The front line staff have a script and refuse to engage in any kind of technical conversation. The fitters (they are not mechanics) only know how to read fault codes and change parts at 300% the going rate. They don't diagnose, fault find, repair or use common sense. When they run out of pages on their flow chart they hand you back to the front desk and get them to get rid of you or find a way for you to buy another car. The majority of their money is made doing absolutely nothing.

A good honest garage is worth its weight in gold, it's worth asking around as some are so busy they don't advertise, they don't have to.
I also do most of the work myself, but in this case iv run out of ideas, this car is a taxi and I do have a garage where I go sometime I can get it in quit quick. But they don't have all the diagnostic kit and what they have he cant find what's wrong. It's the time it going to take at I'd say double the price. I'm hoping they will know straight away, and not be a test subject, but that's in a perfect world. I have it in the back of my mind it's the injector, let's hope not.
 

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Ive used a local garage, non main dealer for over 20 years now, ever since he was recommended by my previous mechanic, when he was retiring and selling the unit to him

been good, always rings before swapping any parts, plus keeps the old ones for me to see if I want

collects the motor, repairs it and then delivers it back, i pay the bill when Im next passing

he now has 4 adjoining units, runs a full MOT unit, a tyre unit, and the two servicing bays

good value and a polite, clean service, attitude is spot on

if you ever need work done in the south kent area, this is his website, they cater for all cars, including electric vehicles

 

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Just as Mick says above I found a local garage in 2001 (recommended by the dealer I bought car from) and have used it ever since. They started small and have expanded - it was a two man band and I think they've got five mechanics now.
Always call before doing any work outside of what was previously agreed, never get any shocks when presented with the bill.
Shameless plug: Car Garage Middlesbrough, Marshbrook Motors

Simon
 

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I have used the same small garage for 20 years. Today took my sons diesel 2004 corsa for MOT and full service. Total cost £175 including the £50 MOT fee. I think that is pretty good value. Things like pollen filters etc that main dealers change every time he only changes when they need it.
 

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Not a fan of the reliance on diagnostic kit over basic simple visual and manual checks first. In this case, blocked breathers, disconnected breathers or any part of the PCV system. Clogged/sticking auxillary air valve/idle valves, multiplug connections to them or stepper motors and the like. None of which show up on diagnostic, but are typical and quite common things for the symptoms described.

First rule of diagnosis, unless obvious or very common to make/model engine management fault you can go straight to, is start basic and go from there.

Cars have got more technical with the advent and development of engine management granted, but it doesn't mean that every fault on a car needs 'hooking up the old diagnostic kit'. The lack of trust stems from garages that always fall back on that one, trick is if you can, find a good one.
 

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Mother in law had a corolla do this. It turned out to be a £15 tps. ( throttle position sensor ) This sensor apparently tells the ECU how much fuel to inject at anyone time. There was only two torx screws holding it on to the throttle body. The mobile mechanic took ten minutes to change it and charged her a tenner for a pint. No recalibation nothing. Drives perfect now.
 

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£99 for a diagnostic check seems like a rip off to me,I think they only plug a computor in and read the fault codes,I suppose it's paying for what they know rarher than what they do,I know little about the machanics of a car but it sounds like the same problem I had with a Vauxhall Astra which turned out to be an injector problem
I think a recent diagnostic on my Golf R was £50 and that was a main VW dealer!!!
 

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I am a mechanic and trader OK bikes not cars
Find an independent the main dealer are all now stealers !
OBD2 diagnosis is if it not a manufacture specific code easy get a reader or bluetooth dongle of ebay read the codes stored or current, and use google to find what they mean you may then need to go to a mechanic or it may be a simple fix The readers start from £20 dongles + software from £10
You then will have some idea what is the problem Some faults codes even if not currently present lock the ECU into a restricted performance mode so all that may be necessary is to use a reader / dongle to clear the codes But some manufactures codes are beyond OBD2 and need manufacture specific software or unit these cose thousands of £ so hence to big charge to diagnose A simple check first is often a big saving
 
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