I can't catch Barbel.

rd115

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I use 0.32mm 15lb on the reel to 15 or 20lb braid hooklengths but i'm ideally after catching 15lb+ when I can get amongst them.
 

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A 15lb barbel will probably never come for most of us, aiming for a double is probably more realistic for starters.
 

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One other angler there last night, he blanked as well. Don't feel too bad about it.
 

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Make some notes on what both of you did and what the river conditions were.

that way you learn something - even though you didn’t catch anything.
 

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I do feel for you guys on the sort of rivers that go up and down all the time. Quite lucky on thames in that its quite stable. Was low and clear in june but its been at pretty much normal summer level and colour through july so its been fishing like normal as well.
 

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Caught my first by accident on the Wye almost 30 yrs ago - was fishing a club match, targeting chub around 1lb with maggot & caster on a light feeder rig then a 4lb barbel scared the wotsits out of me by running me ragged for what felt like an hour.

Match winning fish though :)

Largest I ever caught when fishing solely for barbel was 7lb but always on the same rig & bait combo or occasionally using hair rigged cubes ofBacon Grill - truly evil, smelly stuff but chub and barbel seemed to love it.

Really hope you get lucky soon.



Karl
 

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I'm trying to get into my first river barbel at the minute, but so far its been fruitless so i understand your frustration. Got to the point where i didn't even fish the river weekend just gone and went to a little tench/rudd lake just to get a tug.

Going out light tonight for some perch and chub on the Ouse, really looking forward to it. I've been trying for Barbel in a local weir pool where there are a few up to about 16lb but so far haven't had any luck. Its snag central and the 'productive' swim is always occupied by an old fella who fishes it every day.

This weekend I'm thinking of a trip to Biggleswade to fish the Ivel. I'm going to keep going at it until I get one.



Ill race you to a barbel arch :)
 

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Arch, I could have created this exact thread. In fact I had to double check I hadn't, thought perhaps I might have started it whilst in a sub-conscious state,
Me and a good mate have been fishing the River Dove now for four years plus. We haven'y exactly hammered it but with the time that we have put in, we both feel we should have at least deserved to have caught a half decent whiskers between us.....but it doesn't work like that sometimes.
I can count on one hand how many Barbel we have caught, the biggest was about six and a half pound.
We are aiming for the bigger fish to be honest, so it's normally at least 12lb mainline, 8-10lb hook-links. Darn't go any lighter because if and when I do connect, I want to be able to bully it away from the snags that are prevalent in the stretches we fish.
The Dove can be a heart and soul breaker to fish, but we know the big girls are in there, that's what keeps us going back.
The one thing that keeps popping up in conversation with the other anglers we meet on the bank is that the best times are during the hours of darkness.
Neither of us night fish anymore but we try and fish at least an hour into the night.
In the meantime we have caught some dream Chub. I have broken my PB three times in two seasons. The current being 6lb 1oz.
 

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Arch, I could have created this exact thread. In fact I had to double check I hadn't, thought perhaps I might have started it whilst in a sub-conscious state,
Me and a good mate have been fishing the River Dove now for four years plus. We haven'y exactly hammered it but with the time that we have put in, we both feel we should have at least deserved to have caught a half decent whiskers between us.....but it doesn't work like that sometimes.
I can count on one hand how many Barbel we have caught, the biggest was about six and a half pound.
We are aiming for the bigger fish to be honest, so it's normally at least 12lb mainline, 8-10lb hook-links. Darn't go any lighter because if and when I do connect, I want to be able to bully it away from the snags that are prevalent in the stretches we fish.
The Dove can be a heart and soul breaker to fish, but we know the big girls are in there, that's what keeps us going back.
The one thing that keeps popping up in conversation with the other anglers we meet on the bank is that the best times are during the hours of darkness.
Neither of us night fish anymore but we try and fish at least an hour into the night.
In the meantime we have caught some dream Chub. I have broken my PB three times in two seasons. The current being 6lb 1oz.

Monster Chub would do me if i can't get any Barbel.

Wonder if it's an angling pressure thing? Lots of the Carp boys switched to Barbel now. On the stretch of the Trent i have a ticket for it's all bivvies and 3lb carp rods.
 

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Know how you feel Arch. I've gone from catching 100+ Ribble barbel per season to 1 in the last 3 years. My main problem is I don't go fishing often enough these days plus the Ribble fish population has undoubtly changed in recent years (loads of dace n roach now). As regards tackle n baits for barbel I still feel it doesn't matter much
 

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I've been targeting a small backwater recently - no barbel yet despite persistent effort, but others are catching. A few evenings ago I was straight-leading a piece of peperami hot - second cast saw the rod almost pulled in while I was farting around getting comfy. A huge barbel took me into a weed bed and I pulled hard when the hook pulled out. I would really appreciate MDers views of dealing with barbel stuck in weed - let em swim, pull hard, offer a prayer to Thor?
 

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@zipper-de-doodah not an exclusive to barbel but sometimes when fish are stuck hard in a snag to the point you’ll never pull them out opening the bail arm will see them just swim out. Done it with carp and pike a couple times with weed and sea fish with dock structure.
 

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If a barbel gets stuck try and get below it and pull it downstream. Obviously that may not be practical on an overgrown backwater.....

what hook were you using? I find it hard to pull hooks out of barbel !
 

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Size 6 Drennan specialist? I was pulling like a lunatic. I will try the bail arm off method if I can stop panicking when it happens in the future (which it will!)
 

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Drennan specialist ? Is that the super specialist or the wide gape version.

IMHO the super specialist is too fine in the wire and they tend to cut out......I will not use them. The wide gape is better and at least it has an In-turned point.

you really want a shortish shank, strong hook with an in-turned curved point. i quite like the mildly curved shank carp hooks. But some overdo it...Ideally a small barb too - if fishery rules allow.

I might even use a small bit of shrink tube or a line aligner to make sure it turns and hooks up. But the way barbel feed you should get good hook ups. It doesnt need to be too big, a strong 8 would be fine. Then a med length flexible hair.

For chub, bigger hooks, with longer shanks and very short hairs.

Hope this helps.
 
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