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Neil ofthe nene

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As suggested I will start a thread about fishing on a budget.

Not everyone is endowed with the means to buy top priced gear. This forum is home to the full range of society so it stands to reason that some members will not have £3,000 to spend on a pole, £1,000 on a seatbox or £100+ on a reel. And as @Dave Spence has said, no one should feel pressured into spending more than they can afford just to fit in or because of peer pressure. Luckily I don't care what anyone thinks of my cheap, old, mixture of tackle. I'm happy that my gear does the job I want it to. I get pleasure from the act of fishing, not owning a particular brand or something from a particular price range.

I am in a lucky position that I could, if I so wished and felt the need to I could buy a top end pole and not notice the dent in my finances. So why don't I? Because I just don't need to. As my mother would have said about considering a purchase "Do want it or need it?". Don't think I don't spend money elsewhere. The cost of our holiday to Australia last year would be eye watering to many and the gifts we gave our children last year to help them buy houses …….

Anyway how little can you spend and still enjoy a day's fishing? The following is a list of tackle I use

Seatbox - the current one was kindly given to me by a fellow MDr. The one it replaced cost me £150 around 20 years ago. In 50+ years of fishing I have owned two baskets and three boxes (four if you count my canal box that cost £40.50)
Trolley - cost me around £25 I think probably the best part of 30 years ago.
16m Pole (MAP M16)- I think cost me £500 around 10-12 years ago. I have since bought another when on offer in 2011 for £300 and some spare sections for £35 in 2014. Still doing the job and I see no reason to replace it yet.
Margin pole (Maver Abyss X) - Cost me £50. I bought a second soon after as a spare.
Pole rollers - Dinsmore Silver Roller, cost less than £20 I think (they are only £20 now), Avanti double cost £20 (Christmas gift), unbranded one, can't remember cost but would not have been more than £20
Feeder rod - £35 (Grandeslam)
Feeder reels - £10 (Vigor/Lineaffe)
Keepnets (KND) - £20 each.
Floats - From the now retired @buygoodtackle for less than £1 each.
Landing net handle - £19 (Maver Abyss)
Landing net heads - last ones I bought cost £10
Topkits - £10-14 (Avanti, sadly no longer available)
Tosspots - free. Someone once asked why I didn't just buy them as they were only £4.99 for three. I pointed out that I carry around 30 of different sizes. That would mean I would have to spend £50 on pots.
Side tray - Probably cost £10-15 from eBay.


There is a lot of perfectly acceptable gear at reasonable prices available. Spend what you are comfortable spending, not what you feel pressured into spending. Enjoy fishing not owning.
 

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Excellent post Neil, I too, used the Avanti universal top kits; I was lucky enough to live within walking distance of Roger Surgays first shop and you would just take your No 4 section and he would find a kit to fit it. I still have them, landed 100's of fish, and never had a problem, as my dad would say "they owe me nowt". The main difference between us is in Toss Pots, I carry a couple of the biggest and just vary the amount I put in them; carrying 30 of them, I am afraid to say mate, makes you a tackle tart :p :p :p
 

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It is a good post and Neil is proof that it is the angler and not the tackle...I scrimped and scraped a lot of my life , to by decent tackle,used 2nd hand, cheap gear , etc... Now I’m in a better position, where I can buy what I like, I don’t buy it to “show off” or for “bragging rights”, or because I think they will make me better , all things which have been said to me on here...,.I buy them to please myself and make my experience more pleasurable..End Of!.... there is loads of great bargains to be had both new and 2nd hand, then people can either choose to stick with it or upgrade
 

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At the end of the day, the tackle doesn't matter. When starting my lad off he had some of my original tackle and with a little tuition from myself he was beating us all. Why? He listened and adapted, took the basics and applied his own thinking. It was nothing to do with gear as most of it would not have been out of place in a second hand shop. I believe the big question is, what is the most magical, the gear we use or the surroundings and fish we seek?
 

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Well theres a lot of guesstimates for mine but for an average coarse session I take roughly the following.

Terminal tackle I wouldn’t have much clue but guess standard would be a couple dozen floats, a dozen feeders, dozen packets of hooks to nylon, few loose hooks, couple boxes of shot, packet of beads, packet of feeder booms, couple plummets, couple disgorgers etc would maybe equate over £100.

Then on the luggage front my terry Hearn chair and korum rucksack are years old but at the time probably totalled £100 and my fox quiver was about £50.

Handful of bank sticks/rod rests wouldn’t have been more than £30 in total I’d guess. I generally take two landing net set ups totally maybe £50, one Preston one dinsmore.

Then for rods and reels I always take at least two but up to four. Rods generally being a drennan 13ft acolyte ultra float at around £170 (got 10% off), a cadence 13ft CR10 #1 £65 (got in 2 for 1 offer), 10ft Shakespeare Mach XT feeder roughly £70 (soon to be upgraded to an 11ft acolyte at £170) and a tfgear 8-10ft compact allrounder at roughly £60. Reels being a drennan series 7 float 3000 RD and series 7 feeder 4000 RD both about £50 each, shimano Sahara 2500 RD at about £50 and a tfgear match feeder at about £30.

So probably less than a grands worth of kit atm for any average days coarse fishing often much less as rarely take 4 set ups. Obviously got other stuff as well but that’s the regularly used stuff.

I won’t bore you by going through the all sea fishing items but I’d guess my 3 rods 3 reels uk sea kit total probably not much over £500 odd when terminal tackle is added then my 3 rod 3 reel overseas sea kit plus terminal tackle again totals probably just over £500.

So basically all my regularly used gear totals less than a decent pole lol
 

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It is a good post and Neil is proof that it is the angler and not the tackle...I scrimped and scraped a lot of my life , to by decent tackle,used 2nd hand, cheap gear , etc... Now I’m in a better position, where I can buy what I like, I don’t buy it to “show off” or for “bragging rights”, or because I think they will make me better , all things which have been said to me on here...,.I buy them to please myself and make my experience more pleasurable..End Of!.... there is loads of great bargains to be had both new and 2nd hand, then people can either choose to stick with it or upgrade
I would never criticise you for buying something mate. When I likened it to my Yaris compared with a Bentley, if I'm honest I would love to have a Bentley parked outside but I cannot afford it so I had to buy within my means.
 

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Brilliant post Neil and very true.
The forum has educated me in the pros and cons of a lot of current, older, reasonable and expensive tackle for which I'm very grateful.
With this knowledge, if I was in a scenario where my good tackle was stolen, I'm sure between the Wanted, For Sale sections on the Forum and eBay I'd be back up and running for small money.
It is nice to buy the best too but let's not forget, it's getting out on the back and enjoying your fishing that really counts.
After all, that's how we all caught the bug..........
Regards
John
 

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I expect you could call me a dealer in used tackle

when it comes down to the amount I have spent, then recovered through selling stuff on,

the tackle I have has cost me pretty near nowt, in fact Ive probably made money out of it, and Ive still got more than I will probably ever use

and my personal kit has got better with time,
 

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the tackle I have has cost me pretty near nowt, in fact Ive probably made money out of it, and Ive still got more than I will probably ever use
I ain't got enough mate and I am soon to be a UKZ (poor pensioner). ;););)

At the risk of hi jacking the thread, do you still get your heating allowance, bus pass etc at 65 even if you can't draw your oap until 66?
 

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Buying and sellings in my blood

My great grandad was a dealer by profession, my grandad taught me to see the value of things on the days I spent in his company, how the purchase of things of little value, become objects of far greater value when a bit of labour, effort and knowledge are applied

one mans junk

an example as to tackle, one guy sold me all his gear and it was a fair bit of quality and a hell of a lot of it too, he needed money quick (mortgage and debt ), I had money spare, deal done and a good deal it was for me too

out of that deal, by splitting and selling what was there, I probably made ten times what I paid for it because I wasnt in a hurry to sell, just selling a pair of the rods outta it pretty near made me back my outlay
 

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surely it's about price per use ... most of my kit is (or rather was) top end at its time (but has also often been bought second hand)
But when I've been using them for 30+ years, the TCO is pretty small
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AS1 Box
Daiwa whisker kevlar 11-13 feeder rod
Mitchell Match reels

they certainly don't owe me anything back now!
 

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That’s a good point I’m always inclined to pay more for the stuff I use more as you can justify the cost more than stuff you just use occasionally. Most my coarse fishing has always been float biased which is why my float rods are worth 2 or 3 times my feeder rods. The amount of feeder fishing I do is catching up now though which is why I’m going to upgrade my feeder rods soon. Similarly with my boat rods 80% of the time I use a 12-20lb so that rod cost more than my 6-12lb and 20-30lb put together.
 

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I like nice gear, but once I find something that works I keep it.

my carp and specialist gear is all 20 years old but still very much fit for purpose.

ive just come back to river fishing and have updated some of that gear: a couple of used quality rods for not much money and a new 3012 reel (£70). However I’m not convinced that the new reel is any better than my 25 year old Shimanos !

recent expenditure had been a seat box (£6 on eBay !) that I might use one day. A new ultra light chair that cost a fortune but is a godsend as I carry my gear.

only really big ticket item is a quality whip as I want to learn the ‘Hereford style‘ next Winter.

I also do a lot of fly fishing, but the same logic applies. My gear works - so why change it. I have nice fly rods and reels but all were bought either used or in end of range sales.
 

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I ain't got enough mate and I am soon to be a UKZ (poor pensioner). ;););)

At the risk of hi jacking the thread, do you still get your heating allowance, bus pass etc at 65 even if you can't draw your oap until 66?

I got my bus pass at age 63 but I don't know if it's a region thing. I got heating allowance about the same time. No harm in making a few enquiries into it.

As for cost of gear (or lack of cost). I make my own floats (wagglers), I re-use line when replacing it. (hook lengths etc.). I make my own Carp leads/feeders. I look round different places if I need a rod or reel so really I keep costs to a minimum. I don't necessarily buy the cheapest but I do buy what I feel comfortable in using, and if the same make/model is available a tenner cheaper then fine. I can't see me buying anything tackle wise now for quite a while unless something gets broke, as I'm happy with what I have.
 
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Neil ofthe nene

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Excellent post Neil, I too, used the Avanti universal top kits; I was lucky enough to live within walking distance of Roger Surgays first shop and you would just take your No 4 section and he would find a kit to fit it. I still have them, landed 100's of fish, and never had a problem, as my dad would say "they owe me nowt". The main difference between us is in Toss Pots, I carry a couple of the biggest and just vary the amount I put in them; carrying 30 of them, I am afraid to say mate, makes you a tackle tart :p :p :p

I have a tendency to overfeed. So using different sized pots forces the discipline I need at times.
 

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I’ve never really taken fishing seriously enough to spend a massive amount of money on gear but I do like to use decent stuff.
If I want something new I will buy it but most of my rods/reels are in the £50-£100 bracket. One of my favourite pieces of kit is my Daiwa D feeder rod which has caught me no end of decent fish and cost less than £35 new.


Seatbox and pole are second hand - I can totally understand why people spend the money they do on them but as a casual fisherman I’ve never felt the need. If I was fishing big matches every week I would absolutely look at upgrading.

I would say the majority of my money is spent on terminal tackle and bait.
 

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I got my bus pass at age 63 but I don't know if it's a region thing. I got heating allowance about the same time. No harm in making a few enquiries into it.

As for cost of gear (or lack of cost). I make my own floats (wagglers), I re-use line when replacing it. (hook lengths etc.). I make my own Carp leads/feeders. I look round different places if I need a rod or reel so really I keep costs to a minimum. I don't necessarily buy the cheapest but I do buy what I feel comfortable in using, and if the same make/model is available a tenner cheaper then fine. I can't see me buying anything tackle wise now for quite a while unless something gets broke, as I'm happy with what I have.
Got mine at same age but it's changed now to age you get state pension wife had to wait until she was over 65 and now she is going to get half my winter fuel allowance.
 

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I ain't got enough mate and I am soon to be a UKZ (poor pensioner). ;););)

At the risk of hi jacking the thread, do you still get your heating allowance, bus pass etc at 65 even if you can't draw your oap until 66?
Bus pass at 60 & also free prescriptions :)
Still haven't applied for my bus pass.
 
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