How do you make a lake?

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NoFinPhish

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Been pondering this one for a while, I'm sure theres a simple answer

Lets just say I decide to disappear to a faraway corner of the land in a few years time.

Buy myself a house in a few acres of land, apply for planning permission and dig a dirty big hole in the ground to put fish in.

If you build a pond you use a pond liner, how do you keep the water in a lake if it's above the water table and a few acres in size?

Do you compress the earth with a roller? Do you lay a bed of chalk down? I'm sure nature can help, but I dont want to wait years for it!
 

dave the fish

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Do you lay a bed of chalk down

Why chalk? isnt that porous, not much good for keeping water in. Would have thought a bed of clay would be the answer.

Dont forget to allow plenty of space around for Maggotville and the barbeque. Have you picked the date for the fishin yet?[:p]
 

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Originally posted by NoFinPhish

Sorry Dave, non-knobheads only

[:D][:X]

Only be a small camping place then Jason.
 

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Jason, I maybe able to throw a little light on this one.

Friends of ours not had their own pond "dug" and from what I found out this is the way its done here without the use of a pond liner.

The pond is dug to desired size and depth (over here 15 - 20 ft in the centre is the norm). Then a drilling company comes in and "taps" into an underwater spring or similar. So you have nice clean water and a pond that never empties [:D][:D]
 

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Start digging in the middle and work your way OUTWARDs or you'll be stuck in the bloody thing when you finish.
Water goes on the INSIDE not the outside[;)]

Other than that it's fairly fool proof.
 

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I'll chuck my (sensible?) two-penn'orth in.

My mate wanted a house in the country where he could dig a couple of ponds.

So first he found a suitable house with a likely looking bit of land.

And had two surveys done. A structural survey on the house, and a geological survey by the then local water authority, to assess whether the land would hold water.
Chalk or gravel will not, unless you're below the water table!

So there were many shafts dug, and many men peering into them, before he got the all clear. He was on clay land.

Then it was in with the earth movers. A big bulldozer shifted enough earth in two days to create a pond 150 metres x 50 metres x 2 metres deep, then a JCB cleaned up the edges to create sharper drop-offs and ledges.

It cost him just over 3000, 10 years ago (plus the cost of plants and fish) but now it's a real picture.

Trouble is, as often happens in these cases, he knows his 20lb carp so well, he doesn't like anyone fishing for them! Including him and me. [:(]
 
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Alot of estate lakes have been made using a clay "liner".

Used to take the poor buggers months to dig em out and line em ...all by hand!!
 

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Originally posted by badpegpicker

Alot of estate lakes have been made using a clay "liner".

Used to take the poor buggers months to dig em out and line em ...all by hand!!

So maybe just stand at our end of the Channel Tunnel with a big sign:

"Pond diggers wanted, cash in hand, no questions asked." [}:)][;)]
 
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A big box of TNT is a good start for making the hole for the water to go in
 

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You need to consult the Envronment agency / and water company , as you need permison to build a lake which is naturaly filled . Something about affecting the water tables water abstraction law . That would be my first port of call . Get proper advice .
 

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im very keen on this also, im only 19 but very much looking ahead,the ground in our area is clay floodplains.what im interested in is keeping the water clean without using allum or something.another way to do it is build a turkey nest lake.buy property with a low lying area, and use some dirt from the middle to build a large bank around the outside.im going to use a pump and have a feeder creek with a waterfall to help oxygenate the water....(blah blah dreams on for hours....)
 

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hi

you need to look at possible sites in the summer

because so many pond projects have been looked at in the winter when there's no shortage of water

if there's a good flow in a stream or spring in the summer then there's a good chance the pond might not dry up?

but basically peat bogs (land with rushes growing) or clay land with a stream or spring would be a good start
 

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a good source of info on a lake building project can be found in john wilson's autobiography "40 years a fisherman".

he goes into quite a lot of detail on how he built his lake at home and the process and planning whathaveyou that it involved.

i'm off to a land auction tomorrow as a piece of land that has the thames running thru it is under the hammer for a stupidly low amount of money as the guide price....comes with mooring and fishing rights to boot!
 

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i would like to make my own in the future lol [:D]
 
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You can ask advice from the environment agency, they are normally more than happy to come out and advise you. One thing you'll have to watch is that your lake isn't above any other houses. You'll be told no by the council on "planning" in this case. You can use a stream for your water as long as you aren't diverting the water course. Think "WILDLIFE" and the council will bend over backwards to help you then. What I mean is if the lake is for wildlife you can always add some fish "which are wildlife anyway in my book". My friend had the same thing from the council in hereford. In answer to your question on holding the water blue clay would be your best bet if the land is above the water table, 3 inches is enough and you can buy it from a specialised company. They will deliver it but it's much more costly than just getting a bulldozer into some boggy land. Also boggy land is normally looked upon as useless for farming and so is much cheaper.[;)]
 
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