Hooks - match to species targeted or method ??

OldTaff

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I was tying many hooks last night whilst watching Bake Off and got to thinking about why I fish a certain hook at any given time.

My go to hooks are QM1 for method and bomb, Kaizen for pretty much any float / pole situation. Nice and simple.

This was determined by my limited venue choice - park lake with carp (feeder/bomb) or river silvers when I took up fishing again after my big lay off.

Now I have a huge range of venues accessible to me & Jacob stocked with a multitude of species and I’m beginning to think my choices may be a bit too limited or blinkered.

For example I fished maggot feeder last Saturday and automatically put a QM1 on even though I was fishing double red maggot and I knew there was a greater likelihood of catching roach than there was of carp that day. I hooked and lost 2 carp in tree roots but could not connect to any of the daintier bites that I’m sure were roach.

In the old days I fished Kamasan B611 & B911 for everything without thinking about it but now there is a bewildering range to choose from.

Why do you guys and gals do?
 

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I tend to choose a hook based on the target fish and bait. I will only choose a heavier gauge hook if I am targeting carp specifically whether on pole or rod. If possible I will always opt for a spade-end hook and have now got a device that allows me to tie hair rigged spade ends so will be moving away from eyed hooks totally.
 

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I tend to use the biggest hook I think I can get away with for the bait I’m using.
Lots of other factors can come into play, especially if it was a match. But matching the hook size to bait is my priority.
 

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I'll pick a hook size to try and match my target species and bait up accordingly. It's rare that I'll use anything smaller than a 16 as most of what I do is feeder work. I'll use smaller hooks on coarse float work, but not on match style lakes. I use a huge variety of hooks but like you I'm finding QM1 hooks becoming my go to selection. When I was at that little Hotel pond (in your book) I used a small pellet feeder early on with a Drennan 3.5lb hooklength on an F1 7ft Tickler rod and switched later to a Monster 7ft Wandzee rod with a small method on a 5lb h/l and started landing bigger carp pulting a small number of 8mm pellets over the top. A good and busy session in a small venue with plenty of tight swims and snags. I should add that my cr*p eyesight precludes me tying my own hook lengths these days, so I'm stuck with buying either Drennan or Guru hair rig set ups. Guru use Qm1 hooks on some of theirs which I'm developing a love interest in.
 

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Depends on bait, species and method for general coarse fishing.
If using maggot, worm, caster or punch will use a spade end and depending on species / time of year a different gauge wire for example. Mustad maggot v Mustad maggot carp match if pole / waggler fishing.
Same baits on feeder, will select a feeder hook such as a Mustad feeder or PR33 but if expecting bigger fish - Drennan carp.
If hair rigs being used it all depends on bait, corn/pellet on a quick stop/band - QM1, but Wafters/boilies will use Drennan method feeder or a Preston hook with out turned eye (or 34 or 36?)
Same Preston hooks for banded pellet waggler or bomb/pellet rigs.
If fishing soft pellets will use a Mustad wide gape barbless or if bigger fish targeted wide gape power barbless or if bigger a Kamazan animal.
I do have other hooks but above is a general guide IE match hook to:
Size - bait
Pattern - method
Gauge - fish size

Carp fishing, wide gape, curved, chod/stiff:

Size -bait size
Pattern - rig being tied to achieve required presentation

Sea fishing - minefield🤪 but again pattern/size/bait/rig/species determine which hook - Aberdeen, Viking, wide gape, circle etc will be used.


One favourite hook pattern is the Drennan Super Specialist which although a heavy gauge has seen various applications in over thirty something years of use!
 

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Depends on bait, species and method for general coarse fishing.
If using maggot, worm, caster or punch will use a spade end and depending on species / time of year a different gauge wire for example. Mustad maggot v Mustad maggot carp match if pole / waggler fishing.
Same baits on feeder, will select a feeder hook such as a Mustad feeder or PR33 but if expecting bigger fish - Drennan carp.
If hair rigs being used it all depends on bait, corn/pellet on a quick stop/band - QM1, but Wafters/boilies will use Drennan method feeder or a Preston hook with out turned eye (or 34 or 36?)
Same Preston hooks for banded pellet waggler or bomb/pellet rigs.
If fishing soft pellets will use a Mustad wide gape barbless or if bigger fish targeted wide gape power barbless or if bigger a Kamazan animal.
I do have other hooks but above is a general guide IE match hook to:
Size - bait
Pattern - method
Gauge - fish size

Carp fishing, wide gape, curved, chod/stiff:

Size -bait size
Pattern - rig being tied to achieve required presentation

Sea fishing - minefield🤪 but again pattern/size/bait/rig/species determine which hook - Aberdeen, Viking, wide gape, circle etc will be used.


One favourite hook pattern is the Drennan Super Specialist which although a heavy gauge has seen various applications in over thirty something years of use!
Reading through that different lot of hooks you recommend/use above, was that the last job lot you bought of ebay or similar?:unsure::whistle:
 

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The biggest hook l can get away with. Regularly use a 12 simetimes a 10 with a single maggot. Tubertini #18 spades in 14 12 and 10 were my go to hooks but l've discovered Kamasan B525 eyed and love 'em. Not as fine as the Tubs but still fine enough but with that extra bit of strength in them.
Most of my whip rigs are made with pre-tied drennan red range and my pole rigs are made with drennan wide gape pellet hooks.
 

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My choice of hook will depend on various factors. Venue rules, bait type, species likely to be encountered, species I'm actually targeting, average size of fish likely to be encountered, method, line diameter etc.
 

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Reading through that different lot of hooks you recommend/use above, was that the last job lot you bought of ebay or similar?:unsure::whistle:
Not recommending any (apart from super specialist for specimen fishing).
Just answering OP who asked what others do.
I have used Mustad long point patterns since their launch and like them, yes when job lots of patterns I like come up I buy them as they suit me.
Don’t think any are available new anymore?
Preston patterns came in job lots, some are ok, some aren’t so great (PR33 for instance) but cost per hook works out very low so if a few get blunt I ain’t fussed. Last job lot was a load of Korda carp hooks from a very reputable shop.

You been flogging me dodgy hooks 🤣
 

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I’ve become fussy with float hooks nowadays in that I use drennan silverfish maggot the overwhelming majority of the time with just the odd b611 when I want slightly stronger and b510 if slightly lighter. Will very occasionally use drennan silverfish pellet still but have gone off them really just got some left that’ll I use occasionally. With feeder hooks I don’t do or know enough about feeder fishing to have decided on a favourite so use all sorts. If I had to pick some I quite like the aforementioned silverfish pellet along wide gape pellet for short hook lengths and their normal wide gape for longer hook lengths although have briefly tried the guru lwgf for the long hooklengths and they seem pretty good as well. Haven’t got around to trying them yet but the preston n20 and n30 look pretty good for longer hook lengths too.
 

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Why do you prefer the eyed B525 over the spade variant (B520) if you don't mind me asking?
As l get older l'm finding tying spades a bit of a chore. A bit arthritic in my right nose picking finger and needing specs has been causing me a bit of grief. So l went on the lookout for an eyed hook that wasn't too heavy and was told about the B525's. I've tied a few with the Palomar and a few with the knotless knot which l prefer, it gives the hook that inward angle which l think helps to hook the fish. So far results have been good for me using 14's and 12's. They pierce the maggot nicely and although a tad heavier than an equivalent spade still light enough to present a bait nicely.
I will still use my beloved Tubertini's series 18's but wont tie them in bulk, maybe 5 of each size for less snaggy venues and venues with less pike strikes. 👍
 

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I would say that 80% of my fishing these days is done with Guru Kaizen in sizes 14 and 16
I will tie up some Kaizen 10s and 12s if I am going to the river for bream or chub on worm and buy some 18 Kaizen to nylon for winter silvers on the pole.
I have complete faith in them and have no need for anything else.
Bear in mind, I now fish limited venues, all with very low fishing pressure, so quarry are not tackle shy.
 

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When I fish maggot with the pellet cone I don't use QM1s, I use Kaizens. Something about QM1s and maggot don't seem right to me.
 

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Thinking about it I try to match hook to fish size (gauge of wire) and bait to be used. That said apart from paste (always a 12) I reckon a size 16 is 90% of the time my starting point whether small fish or carp, not scared to change as I see fit on the day. I use Preston hooks sfl, gpm, xsh, mcm, kkmb, kkmh, N10, N30, N40 but feel if I’d chosen Matrix or Guru Teflon coated hooks I’d be just as happy, all excellent nowadays.
 

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The simple hook decision process is:

• barbed - barbless
• eyed - spade
• big - small
• strong - light

Match the size to the bait and the strength of the hook to the fish.

Different hook patterns offer minuscule advantages.

My opinion of your current range, is that maybe you've lumbered yourself with a choice between one extreme hook design that can do only one job, and one super-strong spade alternative?

I'd recommend changing to one basic pattern for all purposes, buy it in a choice of two gauges in spade, and some eyed for when you intend to hair/bolt.

Even if it results in owning far more individual hooks to cover the full range of sizes/guages/anchorpoints - sometimes it's less about decluttering the tackle box, but more about decluttering the brain.

Keep it simple.
 
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