General questions on joining a club (South East)

Blargus

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Evening all, following a long held wish, started fishing last year at the advanced age of 43 and have been 6 times to various day ticket venues, Bury Hill in Dorking, Woodpeckers Lake, Gabriels Farm and Beaver Fishery, all pretty accesible from my home in Croydon.

Totally useless, but loving it. But determined now to join a club for access to peaceful underfished still waters. The alternative would seem to be a limited-membership commercial like Priory Farm near Redhill, looks lovely with key to car parks with membership, but VERY pricey.

Crawley & DAS seems good, with many associated clubs and benefits, but I've lucked into a contact at the Holland (as in Oxted) Angling Society, and I'm waiting on an application pack any day now.

My question though is about the whole "exchange of club books" concept. Can anyone expand on the practicalities of this. Am I right in thinking that members of my own "home" club are allowed access to the affiliated clubs at any time ? Should I expect details of all other linked "exchange" waters in my new membership pack ? Or is it more complicated than that, does an actual exchange need to take place, and if so, how, where, when etc ?

I don't particularly want to limit myself to a single club's waters, although I'm sure they're very nice, and maybe I'm worrying too much about complexities that don't exist here ? Any guidance would be much appreciated about the above aspect and any other club related conventions and procedures. Do all clubs have working party days, do I need to learn a special secret handshake ? I guess I can join as many clubs as would take me.

Sorry for rambling on.
 
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Hello mate, DAS seems a good club. Im joining holland in the new season. I have been past the two ponds down warren lane a fair few times and they look like decent ponds.

Im joining Horley piscatorials tommorow. Thats definately a bargain!! 20 for the whole season.
 

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Cheers for that, pretty much my issue/point !

You're joining Holland and HP, but they're reciprocal/exchange of books linked to Crawley, and possibly to each other ! Is there a point in joining both (point taken about the 20 for HP a proper bargain) and not just joining Crawley (60 subs) ? Then you'd get all the benefits of HAS (30 subs), HP (20) AND all the other waters for the clubs Crawley is linked with !
Do you see where I'm coming from - maybe Im missing something - I usually am!

Maybe there's a restriction on how often/when you can make this "exchange" and fish non-home-club waters ?

I've not been down Warren Lane (except via Google Earth !), but avidly read kennyx's blog on Boulhurst Farm pond, and I'm really excited about trying some of these little "secret" places.

I'm guessing this isn't your first club ? Any other pointers on protocol etc.

I am incapable of writing short comments, but an expert in spreading confusion, apologies ! Thanks again sven.
 

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I'm a member of south norwood - we share with Holland but the main difference is I need only pay a pound at Stubpond fishery which is close to Beaver.

Holland's ponds are really good.
 

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I'm a member of Crawley and we can exchange books with the following clubs:

Reigate & Redhill YMCA
Portsmouth and District
Billingshurst AS
Petworth and Bognor Angling Club
Hailsham AA
Leatherhead and District AS
Holland AS
Rudgwick AS
Horley Piscatorials
Woking & District AA

Not used it yet but supposedly you just go into the tackleshop in Crawley, give them your book and they give you a book for one of the other clubs. The Crawley book doesn't carry any details of the exchange waters so it might pay to do a bit of searching on the internet first or talk to the guys in the tackleshop before you decide on a water.

I don't know how long you can keep the book before you have to swap it back.

Crawley have a couple of decent (nice) looking waters but unless you are specimen fishing I wouldn't bother, Buchan and New Pond are low stock big fish waters that have produced both Pike and Carp to mid thirties in the past, very hard work though.

You can also get cheaper daytickets for Stub Pond and Lakeview if you are a member of Crawley.
 
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Excellent ! First hand knowledge, thanks Brute. As always sorry, but more annoying questions:
Which tackle shop, Crawley seems to have three biggish ones ?
That seems to answer the question about books, I physically hand over my home book in exchange for another clubs, and can't then presumably use my own club waters until I switch back ? Makes sense I suppose.
Without meaning to be rude, why did you join CAS then, are you a specimen hunter then yourself, so it suits ?
DO they have working party days, does any/every club ?
From what you say I might be just as well joining Holland and say Horley to have full unrestricted accesss to their waters rather than join CAS ?
Would I then get reduction in the cost at Stub Pond I wonder. I know I sound like a cheapskate, just this was to be my next destination - Mill Lake, because I'm a kennyx fanboy !
I really appreciate the time taken to read my overlong posts and any responses. Keep 'em coming.
Cheers
 

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Bill when the river season kicks in your more than welcome to join me on the thames. We have a rather unexclusive club that is free to join, as well as free fishing. Just put a post on the following thread:

http://www.maggotdrowning.com/forums/threads/81958&whichpage=14

We are currently on our 3rd thread and have been going for a long time. There is a wealth of local knowledge from the chaps on there. We all try to meet up a few times a year.

Regards,

Sven
 

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Hi

When the season kicks in or if you find yourselves at Stubpond if you see a Trophy Blue MG ZS in the car park then I am there.

Pop over and say hello.

Ken
 

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If you want a very good club to join which is only 16miles from you is http://www.edenbridge-angling.co.uk/ they have a very good spread of venues to suit all your needs, from rivers, carp, mixed waters that they own or rent [:T]
 
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Blargus

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Cheers guys:
A river, a blummin' great river, fish on a river, are you mad ? I've heard of it being done, but really ! I can barely get anything out of water when it's standing still, let alone flippin moving independently. I seriously wouldn't know where to start.
I can imagine the traditionalist shaking their heads here, but being late to the sport/hobby and with no mentor I've only known commercials. If you can get anything out of a river, let alone a chub or barbel say, then I'm in awe and not worthy. I'd love to add that string to my bow, just the prospect seems totally daunting.

Edenbridge looks interesting, website's a bit cagey about your waters though, maybe that's deliberate. But do you have some nice pleasure stillwaters, any details you can share ?

Cheers Ken I will, if you see a green Primera with a coffin on the roof, I'm the idiot trying to get a float out of the trees !

While I guess I'm after an ideal world (beautiful scenery; seclusion; plenty of hungry, stupid, large fish; free fishing; close car park) I guess that won't help my fishing education, and while I can't at present envisage myself fishing a river, socialising with club mates (I'm an unsociable b*****d at the best of times) or fishing a match (!), I can see how these things might one day come to pass, and if I'm honest I'd quite like that.

Always feel very awkward being of advanced(ish) years, but knowing next to nothing - I've got a lot of catching-up to do !

As always, thanks, no comments too inane, trivial or off-topic for me.
 

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Here you go bill, evidence that it does bring up the odd joy:

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Im no great river fisherman by any means but ive had some red letter days.

Rivers seem very daunting but if you fish it right you can reap the rewards.
 

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Originally posted by Blargus

Excellent ! First hand knowledge, thanks Brute. As always sorry, but more annoying questions:
Which tackle shop, Crawley seems to have three biggish ones ?
That seems to answer the question about books, I physically hand over my home book in exchange for another clubs, and can't then presumably use my own club waters until I switch back ? Makes sense I suppose.
Without meaning to be rude, why did you join CAS then, are you a specimen hunter then yourself, so it suits ?
DO they have working party days, does any/every club ?
From what you say I might be just as well joining Holland and say Horley to have full unrestricted accesss to their waters rather than join CAS ?
Would I then get reduction in the cost at Stub Pond I wonder. I know I sound like a cheapskate, just this was to be my next destination - Mill Lake, because I'm a kennyx fanboy !
I really appreciate the time taken to read my overlong posts and any responses. Keep 'em coming.
Cheers

You can swap the Crawley book at either Jack Frost in Crawley or the Carp Shop in Horley. I'm guessing if you join Holland they will have a different tackle shop or contact closer to you to exchange books. You can't fish your waters until you've swapped books back.

I mainly joined Crawley for the Pike fishing (Buchan and New Pond have produced huge Pike over the years), I do a bit of everything but specimen Carp fishing is my current love.

Not sure about working parties, to be honest Crawley is pretty rubbish, most clubs I'm a member of send out a newsletter but I get nothing from Crawley and you have to renew through the post (you can join at Jack Frost though).

I'm also a member of Haywards Heath, Horsham and Isfield.

IMO Isfield is the best value club in this area, it's about 60 a year + joining fee but they have about 25 picturesque lakes and ten bits of river from East Grinstead through Uckfield and all the way down to Pevensey.

For me it's equally about where I fish not just what I catch, this stunning lake is five minutes from my house and chock full of Carp, Tench, Bream and Crucians:

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To all who have replied, my thanks.
Sven, to my untrained eye that would appear to be a carp ! From the Thames, or another river ? Very impressed wherever it's from, were you after a carp !?
Thanks Bag Up, they sound interesting, silly question though are the two lakes you mention near Edenbridge, my trusty Google Earth can't find them. Much further south is getting out of range !
Brute, a man after my own heart, I quite agree. That lake does look, as you say, stunning and enticing. Crikey though, multi-membership must mean a hole in the wallet no ? Funnily enough I've had no response from my email to the Chairman of Crawley (Mr L Wells) of 10 days ago, so get the impression they're not on the ball.
Damn you for putting another temptation in view ! Isfield you say ? Warm up the internet, I'm going in !
I'm planning a recce of the nearby tackle shops one of these days when wife's eye's are elsewhere! I've been to the Tackle Warehouse, where they quite impressed me, are the other two (Jack Frost and the Carp Shop) any good. Two years ago I'd never been in one, now I want my heart buried outside Anglers Base in Beckenham !
I think I'm veering towards Holland membership definitely, with maybe Horley Piscatorials as an added bonus.
 

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Blargus

I go to Anglers Base as well!

You mentioned in your original post that you've been to Woodpeckers.

What lake did you fish and how did you get on. I fancy giving it a go.

Cheers

Ken
 

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Yes, I went on Woodpeckers Lake late last summer. Three quarters along the left hand bank as you approach the lake, pretty close to a small island and with rushes to my left and overhanging tree to my right. Awesome surroundings, overcast and warm and huge numbers of fish jumping and bumping around the reeds. Slight breeze, tea-coloured water and saw two people all day - one being the grumpy chap who let me in at 7:00 (think I woke him up )!
This I seem to recall was my first solo trip (previously having taken my 10yr old daughter for "cover") and only third ever fishing expedition, so I'm sure it was me that failed to live up to the billing, catching a pretty steady procession of beautifully conditioned (but small) roach, rudd, perch and a couple of skimmers. Biggest being 6 inches max ! I was using mixed maggot and caster on the float.
It would be a terrible mistake to judge the lakes on my performance. I'm sure in the right hands they'd produce the goods. I cannot stress how inept I am !
The only slight negative I suppose is that it's quite a trek from the car park. No worries if you're trollied up, but took me (ALL the gear - no idea !) two trips each way at the beginning and end of the day carrying all my gear.
Half way through the day I was freaked out when I noticed my coffee flask was moving, this stopped when I moved, but later started again -then my tackle box started wobbling, the poltergeist was accompanied by a small grinding and crunching noise. Turns out it was a mole burrowing around the peg ! Had a very brief glimpse of a star shaped pink nose when I tried to ambush him !
Ospreys Lake also looked interesting, but even further to walk (only another 100m !)with some interesting islands and bridges etc - I circled Ospreys for a butchers once I'd recovered from the walk/mole tussling.
I'd definitely go back sometime - and be fascinated to see what you thought of it - on the blog maybe ?
 

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Both the Carp Shop and Jack Frost are good, I've been using them for years so they normally give me a little extra discount.

The Carp Shop guys are excellent for beginners, when I started Carp fishing they spent about half an hour showing me how to tie up a load of different rigs.

If you are looking to get a bend in your rod then Lakeview is just down the road from Woodpeckers.

http://www.lakeview-fisheries.co.uk/intro.html

Think a match was won there recently with 100lb of silvers, thousands of small Carp in there too.

Isfield don't have an internet site but if you want any more info just send me a PM.
 

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Originally posted by Blargus

Yes, I went on Woodpeckers Lake late last summer. Three quarters along the left hand bank as you approach the lake, pretty close to a small island and with rushes to my left and overhanging tree to my right. Awesome surroundings, overcast and warm and huge numbers of fish jumping and bumping around the reeds. Slight breeze, tea-coloured water and saw two people all day - one being the grumpy chap who let me in at 7:00 (think I woke him up )!
This I seem to recall was my first solo trip (previously having taken my 10yr old daughter for "cover") and only third ever fishing expedition, so I'm sure it was me that failed to live up to the billing, catching a pretty steady procession of beautifully conditioned (but small) roach, rudd, perch and a couple of skimmers. Biggest being 6 inches max ! I was using mixed maggot and caster on the float.
It would be a terrible mistake to judge the lakes on my performance. I'm sure in the right hands they'd produce the goods. I cannot stress how inept I am !
The only slight negative I suppose is that it's quite a trek from the car park. No worries if you're trollied up, but took me (ALL the gear - no idea !) two trips each way at the beginning and end of the day carrying all my gear.
Half way through the day I was freaked out when I noticed my coffee flask was moving, this stopped when I moved, but later started again -then my tackle box started wobbling, the poltergeist was accompanied by a small grinding and crunching noise. Turns out it was a mole burrowing around the peg ! Had a very brief glimpse of a star shaped pink nose when I tried to ambush him !
Ospreys Lake also looked interesting, but even further to walk (only another 100m !)with some interesting islands and bridges etc - I circled Ospreys for a butchers once I'd recovered from the walk/mole tussling.
I'd definitely go back sometime - and be fascinated to see what you thought of it - on the blog maybe ?


You fished the right lake mate, but just in the wrong area, when you walk up to the lake the 1st peg number you come to is peg 1 the numbers get higher to your left as you walk that way, the best pegs to fish (fliers) are 4, 10, 13, 17,18, 25, 26 [;)] the bottom half of that lake is the deeper end so if you placed a rope across the lake it would be from peg 13 to 25 this is the deeper end and the area where a lot of bigger carp get caught [;)], if you ever go there again then fish small 6mm cubes of meat over 4mm pellets either down the margins or a rod lenght out in front [;)]

As for Osprey, it's a funny sort of water you have up to 10ft of water in front of you on most pegs, but the out and out flier is peg 16 , cast a feeder or waggler towards that island and you won't go half wrong [;)]
 

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Cheers for that, you've nearly convinced me it was my peg that was the problem, not my ham-fisted fishing methods ! But not quite !
Bag up, you sound like you've fished it a lot (or had a few matches there). How does it rate in your book against other venues, do you know ? The others in my original post (Gabriels, Beaver, Bury Hills)
What kind/numbers of stuff would you be dragging out on the flying pegs, if all carp, what sizes, or some silvers perhaps ?
Ken, does this sound your kind of place ?
Cheers
 
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