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Corn Master

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Been away fishing for a week at multiple venues. Weather has been mixed but mostly fishable, even if I was a little too cocksure with the margin pole in 15mph wind. Almost broke it, but no, my pole is perfectly in tact despite the rough handling.

I'm just so tired of catching carp. I made a thread last year asking how to avoid it. Not because I don't like the species or the amazing fight, but just because I like variety. I get specialist carp fishing, I do. I get the careful long term pursuit of a 40lb monster. I get the endless weekends, the hasty justifications to the husband or wife, the sacrifices made to bag the ultimate beast. I really do and I never understood why anyone would dislike a particular species of fish for any reason.

This week though, one day in particular, my catches were, 3oz perch, 1/2lb skimmer, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, bacon sandwich, carp, 10lb+ carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, 2lb bream. Most of the others were similar days. It's just carp after carp. Aside from a matchman, does ANYONE want such a catch on a given day? Neither specimens, nor variety. By the end of it, I wanted to throw myself in and hope for a Great White shark.

To me, that isn't an enjoyable days fishing really. I'm not trying to get match weights, I just want to catch fish. In the 30 years before I restarted, I don't ever, ever, remember this sort of thing happening. It was more like perch, perch, perch, perch, perch, roach, perch, tench, perch, rudd, roach, perch perch, skimmer, perch, skimmer.

I've tried a multitude of different baits over the week. Even double red maggot resulted in....you guessed it, carp. Thats in 2ft of water and it took 2 minutes. Wasn't even a bad fish! Fisheries need to sort out their priorities. Either they are match fisheries, specimen fisheries, or pleasure fisheries. You can't be all things to all people, all of the time.

Forgetting my personal preferences, this can't be good from an ecological perspective, can it?

If I cannot catch a roach 1ft from the surface on caster, but instead catch a carp, thats messed up, imo.

Catch a double figure carp on relatively light tackle is great fun, I don't deny that. It's just that if your entire expectancy consists of carp, to me it feels like you're no longer fishing. My friends in the US absolutely hate them, which I never understood, since most of their fishing is generally one or two species in fresh water.

I am not anti carp or anti carp angler, even slightly. I just don't get the obsession with chucking carp in every tiny puddle someone might fish. It makes for a very bland day out.

I did notice in a search that some lakes do not stock carp, but it's few and far between. I guess I just want a normal days coarse fishing. Is it too much to ask?
I'm from the States and I loved catching carp and trust me, we don't all hate them


You should jumped on a river
 

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I'm from the States and I loved catching carp and trust me, we don't all hate them


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Doesn't it depend on what type of carp you mean?

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Start fishing an open or two on commercials where you need to catch carp to win.
I think you may get a bit of a surprise which might open yours eyes a bit.

Alternatively. Take squatts and pinkies rather than maggots. They won't guarantee you less carp but you'll probably catch more of what you want to catch on these venues, rather than just using normal maggot.
 

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I'm from the States and I loved catching carp and trust me, we don't all hate them


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Hi Corn Master, I haven't seen you post for ages, I hope all is well with you?

I followed with interest a YouTube channel, Carl & Alex, they have spent much time carp fishing in the states on the invitation of some very passionate young carp anglers from across the pond. Carp fishing seems to have a following in the states, nice to see.
 

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Been away fishing for a week at multiple venues. Weather has been mixed but mostly fishable, even if I was a little too cocksure with the margin pole in 15mph wind. Almost broke it, but no, my pole is perfectly in tact despite the rough handling.

I'm just so tired of catching carp. I made a thread last year asking how to avoid it. Not because I don't like the species or the amazing fight, but just because I like variety. I get specialist carp fishing, I do. I get the careful long term pursuit of a 40lb monster. I get the endless weekends, the hasty justifications to the husband or wife, the sacrifices made to bag the ultimate beast. I really do and I never understood why anyone would dislike a particular species of fish for any reason.

This week though, one day in particular, my catches were, 3oz perch, 1/2lb skimmer, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, bacon sandwich, carp, 10lb+ carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, carp, 2lb bream. Most of the others were similar days. It's just carp after carp. Aside from a matchman, does ANYONE want such a catch on a given day? Neither specimens, nor variety. By the end of it, I wanted to throw myself in and hope for a Great White shark.

To me, that isn't an enjoyable days fishing really. I'm not trying to get match weights, I just want to catch fish. In the 30 years before I restarted, I don't ever, ever, remember this sort of thing happening. It was more like perch, perch, perch, perch, perch, roach, perch, tench, perch, rudd, roach, perch perch, skimmer, perch, skimmer.

I've tried a multitude of different baits over the week. Even double red maggot resulted in....you guessed it, carp. Thats in 2ft of water and it took 2 minutes. Wasn't even a bad fish! Fisheries need to sort out their priorities. Either they are match fisheries, specimen fisheries, or pleasure fisheries. You can't be all things to all people, all of the time.

Forgetting my personal preferences, this can't be good from an ecological perspective, can it?

If I cannot catch a roach 1ft from the surface on caster, but instead catch a carp, thats messed up, imo.

Catch a double figure carp on relatively light tackle is great fun, I don't deny that. It's just that if your entire expectancy consists of carp, to me it feels like you're no longer fishing. My friends in the US absolutely hate them, which I never understood, since most of their fishing is generally one or two species in fresh water.

I am not anti carp or anti carp angler, even slightly. I just don't get the obsession with chucking carp in every tiny puddle someone might fish. It makes for a very bland day out.

I did notice in a search that some lakes do not stock carp, but it's few and far between. I guess I just want a normal days coarse fishing. Is it too much to ask?
i totally get what your saying as I've been exactly the same, what i did was try different ways of catching them, first was pellet waggler, then tried a pole, loved it so got new gear for pole fishing, then tried other more natural venue's with very few carp in, also specimen carp fishing, and best of all barbel from rivers
 

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Start fishing an open or two on commercials where you need to catch carp to win.
I think you may get a bit of a surprise which might open yours eyes a bit.

Alternatively. Take squatts and pinkies rather than maggots. They won't guarantee you less carp but you'll probably catch more of what you want to catch on these venues, rather than just using normal maggot.
Match fishing just isn't for me JLK. It's intense. If I wanted intense, I'd stay at work.

Fishing around them isn't really the point, although I've tried it and it didnt' work. I'm not routinely going out to fish commercial waters then complaining, although I could, it's just the total dominance of carp that are ruining things for me. Not just me, others too.

Each to their own.
 

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Doesn't it depend on what type of carp you mean?

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In my case as originally stated, it would be grass carp. Big fish too. Favorite local tactic was crossbow!

Asian carp are akin to rats and eradicating them is way outside the scope of pleasure anglers, you're talking explosives, electrics etc.
 

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In my case as originally stated, it would be grass carp. Big fish too. Favorite local tactic was crossbow!

Asian carp are akin to rats and eradicating them is way outside the scope of pleasure anglers, you're talking explosives, electrics etc.
I know an American guy on another forum, and he used to earn his living long lining, and netting them, but he said that they breed and spread so fast it was a never ending job.

It's like the European carp problem in Australia, and the effect they have on their waters and indigenous species.
These people make a good living out of them though,
Australia's Best Liquid Fish Fertiliser |Charlie Carp

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One club I’m a member of has eight or nine waters, four of which are carp oriented. Despite being a large club I seem to be the only person ever fishing the non-carp waters. People can’t be bothered with them as there is a good chance of blanking on them. The majority of anglers these days only seem to be interested in carp.

A commercial I fish had two silvers lakes and nobody ever fished them so they added carp to them.

Personally I like carp but most of the lakes I fish contain silvers as well. I enjoy targeting them for a bit of variety, particularly when the carp switch off, usually in the middle of the day. If I want to avoid carp I just change tactics and it generally works.
 

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I'm from the States and I loved catching carp and trust me, we don't all hate them


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Hi buddy, really nice to see you post again.👍
 

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I've found in recent weeks that the next best way of avoiding carp to fishing rivers, canals and the sea is to fish really renowned carp waters. I've fished a couple in Marlborough pool and boddington reservoir in recents weeks and there doesn't even seem to be much chance of catching them by design on half the pegs so I've not even considered the possibility of hooking one whilst roach fishing!
 

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Hi Corn Master, I haven't seen you post for ages, I hope all is well with you?

I followed with interest a YouTube channel, Carl & Alex, they have spent much time carp fishing in the states on the invitation of some very passionate young carp anglers from across the pond. Carp fishing seems to have a following in the states, nice to see.
Thanks bro. Yeah all is good. Appreciate it.

Carl & Alex are great lads. Been a while since I said hello to them
 

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I'm from the States and I loved catching carp and trust me, we don't all hate them


You should jumped on a river
Funny , I thought you were from Rushden!

as has been said many times on this thread ... just fish any river (or canal). i’ve not caught a carp for 20 years (apart from two sessions on a commercial).
 

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I've found in recent weeks that the next best way of avoiding carp to fishing rivers, canals and the sea is to fish really renowned carp waters. I've fished a couple in Marlborough pool and boddington reservoir in recents weeks and there doesn't even seem to be much chance of catching them by design on half the pegs so I've not even considered the possibility of hooking one whilst roach fishing!
Don`t mention the sea, they will be trying to stock that with bloody carp next!
 

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I find it a bit mixed up to be unhooking a "non-native" Carp or purpose farmed F1 hybrid with the greatest of fish care after baiting for it with fishmeal pellets made partly by indiscriminate fishing for marine small fish. Seems a little contrived.

Feel similar about fly fishing for stockie rainbows. I also have a down on salmon aquaculture, so it feels odd to be using fish feed pellets at all. I guess all human activity comes at some cost and some hypocrisy is usual.

I don't want to boycott commercials, I've enjoyed catching bigger fish when I visited, but I wish there'd been less crafty stocking of canals and naturals with carp than there has been.

I know phrases like "puddle pigs" trigger people, but we've still got red squirrels here and the invading Grey's get name-called, also trapped and killed by those who'd like the existing ecosystem left as it is. Seems some people see carp (in the "wrong" place) that way too? Or is it just the impact of larger fish on small fish sport?
 
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