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I agree there trotter. I think the fact you can’t really get a proper float rod for under maybe £110 (I’m thinking the 12ft cadence is about that price) is potentially one of the reasons there is probably a lower number of proper float anglers than other types of anglers at the moment as the cost of the rods needed to do the job properly is potentially a barrier to entry of sorts.
 

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Defo silverfish as we have seen on this very forum not everyone wants to use a whip of fish with 6 lb line on a rod.
Other than the acolyte ultra I would not know what to look at with modern rods.
 

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Got a Tri Cast Zenith canal rod that is probably one of the softest rods ever made...could find itself in a new home for the right price...
 

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We have had a number of interesting discussions about rods recently. They usually break down into which is the lightest and the best action. We have also had descustions about rods with the most powerful actions for carp and barbel trotting. But which rod would you describe as having the lightest possible action for ultra fine fishing with fine hook lengths and tiny hooks. I use the acolyte ultra but what's your choice slightly different subject to the normal float topic.

I’ve got a 12’ matchpro ultralight and
We have had a number of interesting discussions about rods recently. They usually break down into which is the lightest and the best action. We have also had descustions about rods with the most powerful actions for carp and barbel trotting. But which rod would you describe as having the lightest possible action for ultra fine fishing with fine hook lengths and tiny hooks. I use the acolyte ultra but what's your choice slightly different subject to the normal float topic.

I’ve got a 14ft acolyte I had off a mate for peanuts that’s in the loft waiting for a day out. For years I had an old Drennan 12,6 action tip that would do fine hooklengths. I regularly use a 12ft match pro ultralight and that will do 0.08 bottoms without issue and will handle bigger fish, I’ve also got the 15ft version which is great for stick float fishing. I have used the 15ft acolyte ultra and I couldn’t believe how light it was I dare say you could fish 0.6-0.8 on that
 

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Here's one that I'll wager very few indeed have handled ... and the softest/lightest action rod I've handled other than my Image Canal Rod (which isn't actually an Image but is built on the same blank).

In the early 90s Geoff Bibby teamed up with Bruce & Walker to create a signature range. He had them on show at an Evesham festival weekend- I'm guessing 1993. The 13ft float rod was pencil thin with a really forgiving action.
I've not seen one ever - other than at that show - I wonder if anyone bought one?

I'm also pretty sure it was the last range of B&W general production float rods ever.

although which one it was from this range I'm not sure!
 
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My old Shakespeare President Super Match 13ft that I got in 1984 takes a lot of beating for light fishing for silvers and has enough power in reserve for the occasional bigger fish. It's superb trotting on rivers for roach and dace. I think it's one of the all time great match rods.




Agreed there, I had the President rod and it was a fantastic piece of kit wish I still had mine it got nicked....
 

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Here's one that I'll wager very few indeed have handled ... and the softest/lightest action rod I've handled other than my Image Canal Rod (which isn't actually an Image but is built on the same blank).

In the early 90s Geoff Bibby teamed up with Bruce & Walker to create a signature range. He had them on show at an Evesham festival weekend- I'm guessing 1993. The 13ft float rod was pencil thin with a really forgiving action.
I've not seen one ever - other than at that show - I wonder if anyone bought one?

I'm also pretty sure it was the last range of B&W general production float rods ever.

although which one it was from this range I'm not sure!
I saw one of these about five years ago at the Romsey Tackle Fair and it's pretty special. The guy who'd bought it wasn't prepared to sell it though!
 

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A light float rod. Hmmm. By light float rod I'm interpreting that as a light rod to catch small fish of up to about 5lb or so using 3lb or lighter line.
To that end I have an eleven foot 12 oz T.C. rod that weighs 187 grammes or a bit over six and a half ounces in black and white. It came from the Tackle Box in Dartford and was marketed as a Darenth Valley specialist.
 

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I saw one of these about five years ago at the Romsey Tackle Fair and it's pretty special. The guy who'd bought it wasn't prepared to sell it though!
I wish that I'd bitten Geoff's hand off back at Evesham - but was very happy with my Tri_cast aristocrats at the time.
I never owned a Bruce & Walker - but always fancied an XLT or John Dean back in the 80s
 

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I wish that I'd bitten Geoff's hand off back at Evesham - but was very happy with my Tri_cast aristocrats at the time.
I never owned a Bruce & Walker - but always fancied an XLT or John Dean back in the 80s
I had two John Dean spliced tip match rods. The tip snapped on the later one and I only have the bottom two joints of that one. The original one, bought at the 1981 Ludington World Championships, is still usable though feels heavy by later standards, although it was a 'lucky' rod when it came to big roach.
I also had a B&W MM (multi-modulus) rod which was quite powerful but a lovely light rod that I wish I'd kept instead of selling on.
 

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A light float rod. Hmmm. By light float rod I'm interpreting that as a light rod to catch small fish of up to about 5lb or so using 3lb or lighter line.
To that end I have an eleven foot 12 oz T.C. rod that weighs 187 grammes or a bit over six and a half ounces in black and white. It came from the Tackle Box in Dartford and was marketed as a Darenth Valley specialist.
A light float rod means a rod that can cope easily with 1.5 mainline and hooklinks down to at least 0.08, possibly 0.07 or even 0.06, and would likely have a test curve well under 12oz, more like 5oz.
 

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I had a multi modulus B&W Mark they were a big more powerful than the XLT and the XL there quite rare these days you never seen an MM for sale second hand. Like said they are a bit heavy and thick compared to modern rods. The XLT had a lovely fine spliced tip but not really up with modern rods
Totally agree light line rods as far as protecting hooklenghs should start at
.08 down to .06.
 

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another one that has not been mentioned - and is OK to 0.07 hooklength and a 22 fine wire - is the Shakespeare Excelsior (red butt).
I've sold mine on now - but my last memorable catch on them was a low 20s of small dace on the waggler at Shrewsbury for a second - busy day.

If i had to put the carbon ones I've owned in order of "forgiving action with light gear" I'd say
Image Canal Rod
Shaky mach 3 lite
Tri-Cast Aristocrat Hollow
Tri-Cast Aristocrat spliced
Cadence #2 (soft tip but power lower down)
Shaky Excelsior
Shaky Superteam LXL
DAM quickstick
Shaky Mach 3 power
Shaky president (dark green translucent blank)

I would only class the top 6 in that list as "light action" - and the fifth & sixth are "with care"
 
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A light float rod means a rod that can cope easily with 1.5 mainline and hooklinks down to at least 0.08, possibly 0.07 or even 0.06, and would likely have a test curve well under 12oz, more like 5oz.

5oz test curve? Blimey, that's a Gudgeon rod.:)
 

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Here's one that I'll wager very few indeed have handled ... and the softest/lightest action rod I've handled other than my Image Canal Rod (which isn't actually an Image but is built on the same blank).

In the early 90s Geoff Bibby teamed up with Bruce & Walker to create a signature range. He had them on show at an Evesham festival weekend- I'm guessing 1993. The 13ft float rod was pencil thin with a really forgiving action.
I've not seen one ever - other than at that show - I wonder if anyone bought one?

I'm also pretty sure it was the last range of B&W general production float rods ever.

although which one it was from this range I'm not sure!
I remember the Geoff Bibby range, Adams Tackle shop in Darlington had the full range on a stand just as you walked in the door
 

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I remember the Geoff Bibby range, Adams Tackle shop in Darlington had the full range on a stand just as you walked in the door
Don't remember those nejohn must have been too busy with me fly fishing at the time. What year would that have been?.
 

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Don't remember those nejohn must have been too busy with me fly fishing at the time. What year would that have been?.
Probably late 80's early 90's...if you remember they had rods on a stand that ran the length of the lower floor from just as you went in the door to just before you went up the steps, the Geoff Bibby stand was across the front of that stand for a while, got all of my Bruce and walker rods from Adams from a fibre glass CTM right through to the John Dean I got
 

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Yes was a great shop Adams shame it went the way it did.
I remember taking to Chris he said it all went terribly wrong when they stopped parking in Duke Street.
Sad after all those years.
 
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