Fishing in Northern Germany

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G2LAndrew

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I am visiting Northern Germany in the next few weeks, staying in Meldorf quite near Hussum, does anybody know of any good still waters in the area? I am not looking for any specific species, just some good quality pleasure angling. I am also trying to find out about permits and rules, can anybody help?
 
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Sorry mate can't tell you where to go but can tell you you have to kill all fish you catch. If your caught putting fish back you can and will be prosecuted and have your tackle confiscated. All the forces boys based in Germany fish their matches in Holland.
 

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If what you say is true... it is very nice to have this chance to welcome Germany back to the dark ages as I cannot actually even begin to comprehend a single reason for such a stupid law! In addition, does that mean that private fisheries have to keep restocking every year or are they exempt? I read an article recently that suggested Carp fishing in Germany was to become the next big thing... how can that be if you have to kill every Carp you land?
 

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If your caught putting fish back you can and will be prosecuted and have your tackle confiscated.

Not quite as bad as that nowadays. Thanks to the Green Party these laws were passed but it is not adhered to by many anglers. Carp fishing is very much on the increase and specialist shops stock a lot of UK type stuff now.
 

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Paul, you sound like a man in the know, what are the requirements with regard to permits etc? I am still struggling to see what possible benefit there is from making people kill fish?
 

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Andrew, as you may or may not know, to cut a long story short, in warmer climates, Carp reproduce at a rate of knots, eat everything, bully other indigenous species out of the food chain, these species people prefer over others like Carp, so they ask you to kill what you catch...couldnt do it me and anyone that does it on a regular basis over there cant call themselves pleasure anglers, who can take pleasure in killing a fish or leaving it to die. they may enjoy catching but if they go home at night not totally distraught there is something wrong upstairs.

I know for a fact Germany doesnt have a climate like australia or america where this is usually the case, so not sure why they have the law, someone should know.
 

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Hi Ady, I may have misunderstood either the earlier part of the thread or what you have written, I still have a cold and my head is splitting so please forgive me if this seems like I am being thick. As I understand it you have given a reason for Carp to be culled but the suggestion earlier in the thread is that 'ALL' fish have to be killed?
 

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The green party in Germany deemed it better for the fishes welfare to be killed rather than put back!!!! I'm in the forces myself and know that all the Army lads in Germany travel to holland for all their matches.
 

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I can hardly believe what I am reading, this is pure madness! The Green party, the party that is supposed to stand for looking after the environment and taking care of nature, feels it better for the fishes health for it to be killed rather than returned to the water? Are you sure it's not the Monster Raving Looney Party?
 
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Find it strange myself!!! Not sure if the rules have changed and if only match fishing i.e. putting fish in the keepnet is now banned. Maybe the green party think this stresses the fish and its better to hit them over the head! In Holland they used to trawl the huge inland seas and dump litterally millions of bream onto the fields as fertiliser. Different cultures mate.
 

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This may just be natural venues mate, rivers and lakes etc. Didnt the world record common carp just come from Germany? there is probably loads of private venues for you to visit.
 

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Different Cultures is one way of putting it... wow, I never knew that such stupid people could be in government and i come from the UK :D
 
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OK, for future reference, should anybody be interested, i have managed to extract this from my hours of searching the Web:

This national license, Deutsche Angelerschein can be obtained from the city halls in most states. Don't forget to bring a passport photo and a fishing license from your own country. Its also possible to get one by mail. Just send an Email to: Hannelore.Stapelmann@gerolstein.de and you will receive information on the procedure.

I am not sure if the information I have is correct but also read that in some regions, Munich being one, you have to pass an exam before you can get a license???? I am starting to form an opinion here, anybody want to guess what it is [?]
 
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To be honest I'm not sure what the procedure is for the regions where I have fished. As a one time resident I had to obtain the necessary documentation to fish in Germany but as a UK National I (then) didn't need to complete the formal training.

The last couple of times that I've taken tackle across to Germany (fishing the Brandenburg region) showing my UK licenced has sufficed to obtain the necessary local permits. Whether the guys in the shops just assumed our licensing system is the same or just couldn't be hassled with the system I don't know. The fishing is ace though.

The match fishing in Holland is, as has been pointed out, down to the outright ban in keepnets - at least in the regions I have fished.

I'm off to the NE coast in two weeks but only plan taking a lure rod to see if there's owt to be caught from the beach.
 

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Well I am sailing to Kiel and then travelling inland to Meldorf, there is quite a bit of water around there but have never bothered taking my tackle before and am now wondering if it is worth it on this visit? Thanks one and all for your input, I feel a little deflated by all of this, to me the German attitude seems confusing at best and is a little third world with regard to the kill your catch policy.
 
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Can't help you on the specific location but here's a bit of info from the archives:
http://www.maggotdrowning.com/forums/threads/41331
Your UK rod-licence IS deemed as proof that you've sat the necessary fishing exams, so have it with you.

And every fish I caught I returned[;)]

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Thanks Simon, this is a really big help. It still seems a massive irony to me that you first must pass an exam, I assume to prove you can take good care of the fish and then when you catch them you have to kill them???? The extreme legislation also explains why it is that an area of Germany so full of nice looking still waters is totally bereft of anglers.
 

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It's kind of ironic isn't it that over here anglers are crying out for support in educating Eastern Europeans who come to these shores and fish for food on a catch-kill basis and yet one of the biggest countrys in Europe has a Catch-Kill policy that applies regardless

The Green Party at the time over there bought out this law as far as I can recollect from previous discussion in order to turn anglers away from fishing. Fishing itself couldn't be banned for some reason so the law was bought in on ecologicaly grounds in the hope that concientious anglers would give up the sport rather than continue and having to kill their catch.
A program of eduction would have been the better option but fish welfare wasn't at that time what it is now
 
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