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Anglers either side of the end pegs are 'blockers' in an attempt to lessen the end peg advantage. They do normally get a mention.
 

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I watched and quite enjoyed it, I'm left with a few questions though....

Are the Anglers all "professional" or very talented amateurs, if professional do they fish for a club in a league ?, I saw loads of sponsorship logo's being worn so I assume they're all paid to wear them but didn't see anything with a club affiliation.

What happens if someone hooks a big fish that travels uncontrollably into other swims / pegs ?, or do they pick venues knowing roughly the maximum fish size ?
in the strictest sense, not one of the anglers competing in the final is a "professional" - although many anglers do have some form of minor sponsorship. Some anglers do even wear sponsors logos when they are not paid to (like wearing TNF (the north face) gear on mountains, or even on the high street).
Some of the finalists will derive some or most of their income from consultancy and promotions for tackle and bait companies - add in income from coaching, videos and articles and a tiny few may derive all of their income from angling. Generally, the more successful match anglers get the most lucrative sponsorship deals.

I don't know about the specific rules for fisho, but in most matches - allowing a fish to enter another angler's peg means that fish is disqualified - in theory.
In practice, most anglers turn a blind eye to it happening.
In the world champs it was policed, so anglers in danger of that happening would stick their rod tips under water to avoid being seen.
 

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I could see somewhere like tamar lakes being a good venue. Yes it’s a bit out of the way but it seems stuffed with fish all around it of multiple species that can fall to loads of methods and aesthetically it’s a venue befitting of a final rather than a generic commercial. Or maybe somewhere like docklow given it’s more central and again seems to offer more varied fishing for more varied species again and appears nice aesthetically whilst still being a commercial. Not sure if the lakes there are big enough mind you.
Great venue, it would be Silverfish dominated. Very rare you catch Carp unless you sit out for them. Feedermasters is on Tamar. My focus from now on.
 

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Is it true that the winner of the youngsters match was allowed to jump into the lake whilst the main match was still on?
 

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Is it true that the winner of the youngsters match was allowed to jump into the lake whilst the main match was still on?
Unfortunately it does appear the organisers did allow this (more likely for the tv audience) based on the time this tweet was put out on Saturday


 

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Is it true that the winner of the youngsters match was allowed to jump into the lake whilst the main match was still on?

Having just watched the second clip it does look like initially Andy Kinder was trying to keep it to a later point but the other presenters were pushing it to happen at that time. Possibly director may have told Andy it was going to happen then.

Perhaps the NextGen should have been on another pool or fished to end at the same time?

Or perhaps they should bring back the dedicated ladies match and then intersperse both the ladies and the NextGen amongst the other finalists to spread the field more around the lake?
 

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Here's what FishOMania is all about, a video of clips put together ...

 

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Well done to the winner but have to say never seen so much faffing about with a pole - thought he was targeting flying fish, whatever happened to pole tip under the water and ship back to the topkit asap
 

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Well done to the winner but have to say never seen so much faffing about with a pole - thought he was targeting flying fish, whatever happened to pole tip under the water and ship back to the topkit asap
I was wondering why he was playing them like that myself. I thought they were foul hooked at first.
 

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Just had a word with Ryan laycock who was the next angler to the junior winner who jumped in. He reckons 2nd place may have been reachable or at least a section win. It still beggars belief that it was allowed to happen.
 

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Just had a word with Ryan laycock who was the next angler to the junior winner who jumped in. He reckons 2nd place may have been reachable or at least a section win. It still beggars belief that it was allowed to happen.
Especially with that sort of money on it. Ridiculous.
 

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Just watched,, it all 6hrs. They talk some rubbish.
I think Andy (forgot surname) should have stopped the young lad jumping in instead of encouraging him. Poor judgment from him.
 

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It may have been mentioned earlier in the thread but I think Des Shipp could have done a great job on the presenting front. I haven't fished a commercial for a very long time but I still watch Des's videos occasionally. He comes across very well, and has a 'way about him' as we say up North, and a gentle sense of humour, which would go down well with the wide ranging audience that Fisho is trying to cater for.

I did tune in for some of the final but as others have said, I found it a bit of a frustrating watch unfortunately, particularly the constant breaks to the same advertisements.
 

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The only way they could televise it in a manner to suit everyone and keep it interesting is to record it then edit and condense it down to say an hour just showing the highlights and adding commentary to the footage. I'm sure this isn't what everyone would like as with most sporting events people want to watch it live.
 

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To be fair to kinder i'd be alien in front of a camera too ,he's not a television presenter and considering the occasion i thought he pulled it off ,must be hard to put any spin on the day when only one person catching and walked it .
 

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Well done to the winner but have to say never seen so much faffing about with a pole - thought he was targeting flying fish, whatever happened to pole tip under the water and ship back to the topkit asap
Yes, the bloke was rubbish - landed only about 187 lb of fish in five hours. I suggest you contact him and tell him how to play fish on a pole.

Have you thought that he may have had strong elastic in? That is allowed - there's more than one way to play a fish.
 

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Yes, the bloke was rubbish - landed only about 187 lb of fish in five hours. I suggest you contact him and tell him how to play fish on a pole.

Have you thought that he may have had strong elastic in? That is allowed - there's more than one way to play a fish.
^^:giggle:......Way to go Mac!;):ROFLMAO:
 

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Some of you perhaps haven't thought through why these TV venues are chosen. I used to look for venues for the Winter league final, and it's extraordinarily difficult. It's even more difficult for the Fish O'.

You need to have a TV camera or cameras to be set up opposite, so that every competitor can be covered.
You also need access for cameras near to the anglers for the interviews and close-ups of weighing etc.
You need easy access for the various vehicles, and parking for lots of cars..
You need somewhere for the spectators to view.
You need toilets for the spectators and crews, and to be able to arrange catering. Preferably, also, access to main electricity.
You also need, on site, hospitality services for the sponsors and the competitors, at least some of whom have to be accommodated nearby overnight. And you need space to erect marquees etc.

You also need a water that is going to provide fish. Just one real blow-out and the bad publicity could affect the next year's sponsorship.
You also have to decide whether a load of small fish, which can be swung to hand in seconds, is sufficiently exciting television for the general public. I remember a previous one on Cudmore (I think), when most of the fish were small and, frankly, I found it boring. When an angler takes several minutes to play and land a fish even a non-angler gets some idea of the tense atmosphere at the match, which is what the organisers are looking for.

Commercials provide easy access on cut grass all round, while some natural venues would not be ideal for men holding heavy cameras to negotiate. And on the whole commercials dominated by carp are a better bet that rivers, which could be in flood on the day.

If you're going to have publicity you simply have to minimise the downsides.

PS. I gave in to pressure, many years ago, and organised the Angling Times Winter League final on the River Soar, where almost every angler, so the locals - and some top matchmen - said, had a chance of catching fish, especially gudgeon. A good team venue.
On the Thursday night there was a terrific drop in temperature and I spent the whole of Friday, with locals, breaking the ice in as many swims as we could.
Almost inevitably the match was a farce and Angling Times' name was mud.
In fact after I received a abuse on the bank (which didn't bother me) the editor at the time said he would cancel all further Winter Leagues, because as the sponsor he felt it reflected badly on the magazine. We managed to change his mind, but in future all matches on a river had to have a possible nearby canal venue as a fallback.
Believe me, there is more to it than meets the eye.
Have to say that`s a bit of an eye opener, I mistakenly assumed filming a fishing match would be a piece of cake.
 
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