Fish ID please

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Can anyone identify these fish? Apologies for picture quality my mate took them whilst walking the dog.
For context, these were in a small pond fed by a stream.

My first thought was Golden Orfe but I’m unaware how often they thrive naturally in unstocked waters. 2FD9F3CF-C19F-4CE5-AEF6-AE96DA93523E.jpeg
 

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Look like orfe to me. Basically just coloured ide so theoretically they’d survive anywhere an ide normally would.
 

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My thoughts too mate.
Just strange as the pond is in the middle of the woods with seemingly no owners ?
 

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Indeed is odd, normally fish would be dumped if they got too big for a pond so given they look small I suspect someones pond became very good for spawning so they decided to offload a load of offspring!
 

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Indeed is odd, normally fish would be dumped if they got too big for a pond so given they look small I suspect someones pond became very good for spawning so they decided to offload a load of offspring!

Or got fed up/bored with it and dumped the fish before filling it in.
And Yes...Orfe. We have some in our club waters that are not stock fish.
 

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not necessarily - in my parent's pond, which is approx 13m x 6m and up to 4 ft deep, the biggest fish have only grown to four or five ounces before the heron or kingfisher got them - but it has maintained a breeding population for over 30 years of goldfish, orfe and rudd. I can date the rudd to 4 that i brought home in a bucket back in the early 80s.
 

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I've got 3 golden orfe in my garden pond, they all have names....Sod, Bu66er, and I can't tell you what the third one's called!
 

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Can anyone identify these fish? Apologies for picture quality my mate took them whilst walking the dog.
For context, these were in a small pond fed by a stream.

My first thought was Golden Orfe but I’m unaware how often they thrive naturally in unstocked waters. 2FD9F3CF-C19F-4CE5-AEF6-AE96DA93523E.jpeg
Look like Zerkaloes that's what I think they're called ? could be koi carp or hybrids from koi
 

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Probably from someone's garden pond. Either dumped or possibly escaped in a flood.
 

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Give it a go once we get the green light and see what they are, and what else is in there.
 

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Give it a go once we get the green light and see what they are, and what else is in there.

I plan to mate ?

It’s in the middle of woodland with no signs around or anything to suggest anyone owns it. Can’t see the harm in going armed with a rod once we are allowed. ?
 

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I plan to mate ?

It’s in the middle of woodland with no signs around or anything to suggest anyone owns it. Can’t see the harm in going armed with a rod once we are allowed. ?
I used to fish some of the side streams and canals off the Test at Romsey on that principle. I knew which ones were controlled by clubs and treated the rest as fair game. I had some decent trout and roach out of muddy ditches.
 

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Was the pond part of a house / estate so could just be an old ornamental just left to go wild check old town plans.
 

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My thoughts too mate.
Just strange as the pond is in the middle of the woods with seemingly no owners ?
Walkers of Trowell used to own a pond at Bulwell, it cotained some massive Orfe, but no one ever knew how they got there.

The Erewash canal used to be full of goldfish every oct/nov time from people winning them on Ilkeston Wakes (fair) and dumping them in the water.
 

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Caught out of a little local river near me... most Orfe are odd stocking's from fishtanks or from a pond that was too small to house a fast growing fish...
This one went about 3lbs
 
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