The idea was you whipped a piece of say 50lb mono Onto the rod between the first two rings and then clipped the Ringle onto the mono - that way you don’t have to take it off to cast.Thank you very very much for that rudd. That is very kind of you. ?. I take it you clipped it on and off your line after casting ? By the way pall. I’ve just seen your Ringle twitch. Ooooo errrr missus. ???