Hi Crowder,ive not seen the crucians in woodland water but its nice to know there there,i know theres some good fish in smeatons a friend had a double figure tench out the carp lake and i know theres loads of good tench and bream in the finger ponds but it can be hard going,only thing that puts me off fishing there is the gate times,ok if you want to do an overnighter but if you just want a day session then not so good.