Disappearing Day-Tickets?

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For my sins I live in East Devon not far from the Coast. It's a very scenic area, but the opportunities for Coarse Angling are very limited, especially as I don't (intentionally) fish for Carp. 2020 was a very bad year for Fishing here. We only had a few small Farm Ponds & Commercial Carp Fisheries round here to start with, but several places don't offer Day-Tickets any more as the fishing is now reserved for their "Luxury Holiday Cottage" guests, so journeys for fishing are getting longer. It will probably be much worse this year as many more folk will be Holidaying in the UK and Devon & Cornwall will again be heaving. Are Day-tickets also disappearing in other Areas?
 

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Not quite sure about East Devon. But we holiday regularly in Torquay. Were there are 4 0r 5 day ticket waters. All mixed fishing.
 

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Not an issue up here. All the rivers are controlled by clubs but most technically offer day tickets in normal times although I say technically as you do well to a find bailiff to sell you one and most shops never actually sell any as the season tickets are much better value so everyone buys them. The stillwaters are virtually all day ticket though, can only think of a couple clubs and a couple syndicates. The syndicates are recent though so maybe that's a sign that things will go that way but they had their own reasons for going that way rather than it being the trend.
 

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Be aware that the trend towards building holiday lets around fishing lakes is gathering momentum FAST.

I had a top fishery consultant come and test net my lakes recently and he was telling us stories of the money to be made from what appear to be expensive chalet style holiday lodges. The rents achievable are eye watering.

Down here in the Cotswold Water Park that trend has been accelerating over the last 15 years. Any lake on a short term lease is vulnerable.

Add to that the modern shift to syndicates; and day ticket waters are under even more pressure. Embryo (for example) and others are changing the financial landscape affecting specialist fisheries.

The final (short term) problem down here has been that one of the local clubs has stopped issuing day tickets or taking on new members because of COVID.
 

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I’m in south Devon, there are lots of day ticket fisheries in Devon. I could probably name 20 or 30
 

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Be aware that the trend towards building holiday lets around fishing lakes is gathering momentum FAST.

I had a top fishery consultant come and test net my lakes recently and he was telling us stories of the money to be made from what appear to be expensive chalet style holiday lodges. The rents achievable are eye watering.

Down here in the Cotswold Water Park that trend has been accelerating over the last 15 years. Any lake on a short term lease is vulnerable.

Add to that the modern shift to syndicates; and day ticket waters are under even more pressure. Embryo (for example) and others are changing the financial landscape affecting specialist fisheries.

The final (short term) problem down here has been that one of the local clubs has stopped issuing day tickets or taking on new members because of COVID.
Good points there, thanks. There are many Fisheries here in Devon but as ever it's a question of distance and travelling time. As we are having to fish "Local" it really brings home how the bug for Luxury Holiday Lodge Exclusive Fishing is spreading like the Virus itself!
 

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There are definitely less day ticket options for me lately, but it's not holiday parks or covid that's the issue.

Several venues have just stopped fishing having changed hands, but quite a few have gone down the 'members only' lakes that you pay an annual fee to fish, this is fine if you're a regular but a complete turn-off if you only visit once or twice a year. I hope this trend does not spread further, it's really limiting.
 

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Yes one of our local commercials seems to be going down that route , Cefn Mably is offering 6 monthly permits £200 for summer and £80 for winter and if they sell enough of them they say they will stop selling day tickets , this is on Match and Willow lakes , the other thing they plan to do is to be closed on Sunday which is a bad idea considering that this traditionally the day many working people have a days fishing .
 

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There are definitely less day ticket options for me lately, but it's not holiday parks or covid that's the issue.

Several venues have just stopped fishing having changed hands, but quite a few have gone down the 'members only' lakes that you pay an annual fee to fish, this is fine if you're a regular but a complete turn-off if you only visit once or twice a year. I hope this trend does not spread further, it's really limiting.
Unfortunately for you that trend will continue - it is a no-brainer if you run a fishery.

Its a great deal less aggravation and you have details of everybody coming to your fishery. And you might generate the same revenue with less footfall. That puts less pressure on the fish too.
 

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Yes. I live near blackpool and i can think of several match type waters that have gone into a syndicate type structure from the standard commercial day ticket format over the last few years

Bryarcroft , st Michaels
Hambleton fisheries, hambleton
Highfield fisheries, hambleton
Four seasons match lake, staining
 

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Even though there's a couple of wooden platform/F1 hybrid type commercials locally, everything else is a bit elitist.
I have one club book for some bits of river which is also day-ticket (i.e free because it's never bailiffed) but all the tasty stretches and all of the general coarse lakes are club controlled by clubs who never have any spaces for new members and don't do day tickets, which is infuriating because there's a lovely stretch of canalised river a mile from home which isn't heavily fished but members only.

Everything else is syndicated big carp or "no fishing". I really need to find a farm pond with some tench before I go mad.
 

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Yes one of our local commercials seems to be going down that route , Cefn Mably is offering 6 monthly permits £200 for summer and £80 for winter and if they sell enough of them they say they will stop selling day tickets , this is on Match and Willow lakes , the other thing they plan to do is to be closed on Sunday which is a bad idea considering that this traditionally the day many working people have a days fishing .
And the day ticket price for both those lakes if they are available has gone up for £10 to £12. Thank goodness I joined Glamorgan Anglers this year
 

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Here in Cornwall, we have got quite a few venues that sell day tickets without holiday accommodation, but there are a lot of venues on holiday parks that used to allow day ticket anglers, which have now become guest only. There were already a lot of venues that were guests only. The one that really upsets me is Bolingey. Bolingey is one of the finest commercial fisheries in the UK. I used to fish there back in the 1990s, whenever I came back to visit family in Cornwall. I was looking forward to fishing it again now I live back down here, but it's now got an exclusive deal with Parkdean Holidays at White Acres, that only guests staying at White Acres can fish there. White Acres already has multiple lakes on site already, so it seems a bit greedy to tie up a venue 12 miles away from their site. So the best fishery in Cornwall is now denied to locals unless they stay at White Acres.
 

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Unfortunately for you that trend will continue - it is a no-brainer if you run a fishery.

Its a great deal less aggravation and you have details of everybody coming to your fishery. And you might generate the same revenue with less footfall. That puts less pressure on the fish too.
An owner of a water has a generated revenue target, if day ticket the owner needs to take out public liability insurance, ensure signage and safety (lifesaving) equipment is in place, sell the tickets (third parties take a cut), police the water, maintain the water and surronding area (grass cutting, cuting back tree/bushes, fixing pegs etc) and keep venue stocked.
The owner then relies on enough anglers to fish to make enough revenue to cover costs then make a profit.

Or just lease water out with all responsibilities handed over to club / syndicate with guaranteed revenue?
 

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Here in Cornwall, we have got quite a few venues that sell day tickets without holiday accommodation, but there are a lot of venues on holiday parks that used to allow day ticket anglers, which have now become guest only. There were already a lot of venues that were guests only. The one that really upsets me is Bolingey. Bolingey is one of the finest commercial fisheries in the UK. I used to fish there back in the 1990s, whenever I came back to visit family in Cornwall. I was looking forward to fishing it again now I live back down here, but it's now got an exclusive deal with Parkdean Holidays at White Acres, that only guests staying at White Acres can fish there. White Acres already has multiple lakes on site already, so it seems a bit greedy to tie up a venue 12 miles away from their site. So the best fishery in Cornwall is now denied to locals unless they stay at White Acres.
Bolingy is a great place,but you still Gwinear and Morgan porth,both used to be real bagging venues.i used to have a lodge on white acres but still made the tip to Gwinear and porth,but I do sympathise with you over Bolingy.
 

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I won't be bothering the OP, we go to Devon for a week off fishing usually.
Global and bigger picture could be interesting, massive opportunity nowadays with the existing anglers, ones who have returned and also new anglers. The strength of the welcome of particularly to new anglers to our sport does seem to vary in terms of closed shop syndicates and day tickets alike.

In terms of holiday lets, at times i think (if you have any choices) to join them buy into it and holiday on them or leave well alone if there is a day ticket option running alongside, particularly smaller ones. Good few up early at 7, kit in peg, then back to bed until 10 when they come out to start fishing the peg.
 

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Here in Cornwall, we have got quite a few venues that sell day tickets without holiday accommodation, but there are a lot of venues on holiday parks that used to allow day ticket anglers, which have now become guest only. There were already a lot of venues that were guests only. The one that really upsets me is Bolingey. Bolingey is one of the finest commercial fisheries in the UK. I used to fish there back in the 1990s, whenever I came back to visit family in Cornwall. I was looking forward to fishing it again now I live back down here, but it's now got an exclusive deal with Parkdean Holidays at White Acres, that only guests staying at White Acres can fish there. White Acres already has multiple lakes on site already, so it seems a bit greedy to tie up a venue 12 miles away from their site. So the best fishery in Cornwall is now denied to locals unless they stay at White Acres.
Even in the winter? Bolingey used to have opens in the winter that weren’t restricted to WA residents.
 

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Even in the winter? Bolingey used to have opens in the winter that weren’t restricted to WA residents.
Sam Powell fishes Bolingey a lot in the winter and I think there is the occasional Saturday match throughout the year
 

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Even in the winter? Bolingey used to have opens in the winter that weren’t restricted to WA residents.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think even open matches require a booking through White Acres. I don't fish matches, so there is no way to fish it sadly.
 
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