Conscious decision

rudd

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Carp Anglers on my club waters have been very open over the years but just lately a few have had winter success on baits/rigs, made it blatantly (and directly) clear they are onto something but will not share.
I mean, shouting across the water 'I am using a new bait but wont tell you what it is' = childish.
These are anglers who I helped get into club and have given help/info to for along time. 😐

Unbeknownst to them I have knowledge of both their baits and rigs.
They are using similar baits but from different brands.

With this in mind as thats how it's going to be - I have purchased a bait very very different to both what I have been using myself and very different to them, also will up my game - just because I can (These days I fish to chill but have many gears to go through if I can be arsed).
Rather than a quick hit instant bait I am looking long term as to be truthfull I will still fish for other species the vast majority of the time and wanted a bait fish will associate as long term food for when targeting carp.

Thing is I am going to have LIE about bait I am using when asked to the extent that I have a quarter full bag of a similar looking bait that tbh was not much good. 😯
Others will snoop around and may get a glance at my strategically placed red herring bait bag (oh what a pun indeed which also has made me chuckle very loudly indeed for reasons I cannot post (they may be watching me 👀))

It's not cricket, infact it's a very sad state of affairs imho and I am lowering myself to their level but hey - my conscious is clear as the other's have set this bar for myself to hurdle.
 

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If someone puts the effort into finding a successful method/bait, then I see no reason why they should share it. Some anglers spend many sessions experimenting until they hit gold, then others want to have similar success with no input, that is just lazy.
 

mickthechippy

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A few years back

My brother and my mate john and I were fishing Monks lake 4

we were having a good day, myself bashing the silvers stock and john and richard knocking out carps

well they were knocking em out far to fast for my liking, john being the angler he was, I could understand, but my brother richard, noooooo !

it was getting embarrassing so I switched to trying for the carp too, but I couldnt equal thier catch rate no matter what bait rig or method I tried

asking what bait they were using recieved a lot of laughs, nods of heads and denials

eventually, the both of em told me they were using " Woolies"

WTF are woolies ? I asked but no answer was forthcominig from the highly amused twosome

tiurned out at the end of the day when I had been battered into third place and had too dish out TWO pound coins

Woolies were sugared fruit pastilles, cut in half and hooked on

Woolies being a name the two arseholes had conjoured from "Pick and Mix"
 

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At a Maggotdrowners fund raising weekend at Lindholme l won the saturday match chucking a method feeder with 2 dead whites on the hook. Nothing else worked, dead reds, pellet, corn all failed but dead whites was fish a chuck.
"What you catch on Godber?" they asked
"Method and banded red pellet" l repLIED😁
On the sunday before the second match, the shop sold out of red pellets🤣🤣🤣
 

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At a Maggotdrowners fund raising weekend at Lindholme l won the saturday match chucking a method feeder with 2 dead whites on the hook. Nothing else worked, dead reds, pellet, corn all failed but dead whites was fish a chuck.
"What you catch on Godber?" they asked
"Method and banded red pellet" l repLIED😁
On the sunday before the second match, the shop sold out of red pellets🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like Andy May's windolene story.
 

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There's a significant difference between different types of angler in attitudes towards being free with information. Much depends on the background of the angler concerned. Those chasing big fish are much more likely to be tight lipped than any matchman. I've also found that the water in question makes a huge difference. Few fishing commies and busy day ticket waters are particularly reticent, at least above and beyond an individual's usual character traits. Some folks are naturally less chatty than others.

The vast majority of matchmen, and lots of general anglers fishing busy day ticket venues, simply can't understand why people might keep information to themselves. However, matchmen will never suffer the prospect of not being able to get on their favourite stillwater or stretch of river. The chances of them getting that flyer peg depend entirely on the draw bag, not beating fifty others to it in a race. Most matchmen rely on skill and practice to elevate themselves above their peers. Better tackle, information and bait may play a small part, but not to the extent it might for a speci angler. There's simply little need for a good matchman to keep everything to themselves.

I've said before, my angling background is well mixed. One track match fishing, carping, barbelling and a lot of more general fishing. I tend towards the specialist outlook, but not for any particular species. I've been told that I'm too forthcoming with fishing information at times. However, I quite enjoy helping. The snag is that some folks, that fish the water concerned and get to see and hear about my catches, ask me how I go about things but think I'm giving them misinformation.
 
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OldTaff

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Specimen anglers tend to be a very guarded bunch when it comes to sharing tips simply because of the hours of work they put in to track down the elusive big fish.

Pleasure anglers are on the whole far more open about their tactics and willing to share advice with others - demonstrating the method feeder to a bunch of carpers last season on my local for example and reciprocally learning about their rigs.

I‘ve known match anglers who put weighted towels over their bait trays to stop casual observers discovering the secrets of their success but likewise others who’ll literally lend you rigs if they see you struggling.

It takes all sorts and angling is full of all sorts which is what makes it fun.
 
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