Common or F1?

David_R

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Please can someone tell me if this is an F1? It wasn't the biggest fish I caught on saturday but it stood out as it was immaculate so got a photo.




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robert d

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Please can someone tell me if this is an F1? It wasn't the biggest fish I caught on saturday but it stood out as it was immaculate so got a photo.




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F1 I think as there are no barbules on mouth carp have four f1 2 and smaller
 

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Id say from it's mouth and general shape that it's an F1, I could be wrong though as I tend to avoid places with them so don't see them often. I've caught what are supposedly F1 that have looked quite carpy and others quite crucian like so I'm not sure if it's quite a wide ranging definition or if there are distinct types of hybrids.
 

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If it has fully developed barbules it's a common carp. If it has tiny barbules or none, it's a hybrid of some variety either carp/crucian or most likely a big F1.
 

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Looks like a common from the picture, maybe a mouth shot would reveal the truth.....
 

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Looks like a common from the picture, maybe a mouth shot would reveal the truth.....
I used to fish a lake in Hampshire that had a small head of crucians and a large amount of carp including commons, and we would catch fish that looked exactly like commons, but the barbules were either tiny barely formed ones, or non existent. We caught a few that looked more like a crucian, but bigger and with tiny barbules ,and some that looked like F1s, but they weren't a thing in the mid 80s. Someone tried to claim the club Crucian trophy with one of the crucian looking ones , and doing a scale count of the fish from the photo showed it was some kind of hybrid.
 

Simon R

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That looks nothing like any F1 I've ever caught- nicely proportioned common carp IMO.

Simon
 

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Im with Total. I think it's a common. It's tails all wrong for an F1.

The scale count on the lateral line is all wrong for an F1 mate (typically 35-36)...Admittedly the original photo looks like its got some koi type cross in it on its tail area...(y)
 

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The scale count on the lateral line is all wrong for an F1 mate (typically 35-36)...Admittedly the original photo looks like its got some koi type cross in it on its tail area...(y)
Bang on Mark. ?
 

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Interesting views. My initial thought was a common but then the mouth and almost triangular shape of the fish talked me into F1. As I said originally I’ve caught supposed F1 that have looked mostly carp and mostly crucian so I’ve never been too sure what they are supposed to look like.
 

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I'd say it's a common. We have some Carp in the clubs waters that look the same, even down to the tail colouring that are hitting the 17lb mark and some of those have no barbules. F1's don't go to that sort of size.
 
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