Clipping up in open water

tincatim

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Inspired by some comments in another thread which got me thinking about this. I always clip up when fishing to a feature like a far bank or an island. Using the widely accepted trick of holding the rod behind me at 30/45° as the feeder hits the clip to gain a few turns on the reel. I’m confident that I can get the fish under control before those spare turns are stripped from the reel. The fish can only go left, right or towards you in that situation.

I’m much less confident clipping up in open water though, specifically rivers but the same applies to lakes. I’ve watched a few videos of big river feeder fishing and most have clipped up, which is fine when the target is silvers or bream. But there’s always a chance of a barbel, big chub or carp.

How do you approach this when accuracy is important? What happens if a big fish takes the bait and charges off into open water? And can I be confident that the few turns of line on the reel will be enough?
 

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I'm going to use an elastic band or bicycle inner tube on the Tench lake I fish this year as it has a lot of big double figure Carp, one of which stripped a load of line off the reel on my first cast last time, luckily I hadn't clipped up and didn't for the rest of the day after that, it's shallow making it worse so they storm off. The Tench probably would have been fine but the Carp wouldn't. I never clip up when Barbel fishing either.
 

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I was thinking of trying an elastic band, something you can release quickly if you need to. I’d never clip on the smaller river I fish, barbel would soon be trailing meters of line around with them and I’d never want that. Just thinking for casting two thirds of the way over a wide river clipping up could be useful.
 

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I would use an elastic band and mark the line in some way, probably with a stopknot tied on the line at a specific point on the rod, such as a rod ring. When the stopknot reaches that rod ring, then place the line beneath the band.
 

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I always clip up I open water if fishing at a reasonable distance, by the time you have sunk line you have a few turns on the reel and that combined with the stretch in line is enough to stop breakages very rarely get broke up. This is for commercial size Carp on method if fishing for big carp on buzzers which I never do I can see being clipped up being a problem.
 

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always mark my line and clip up, that means i can cast to the same spot each time and/or unclip and add/remove some distance but still be able to get back to my original spot.

I cannot think of a reason why you wouldnt do it if you want accuracy, also great for noting if i fish the same peg or specific features if you use sticks to measure, amazing what you can learn and map out
 

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If on a stillwater and I'm only expecting match size fish to only around 10lb I'll happily clip up but only with strong line 6-8lb or so, keeping the rod low is usually enough to keep them calm and can then be persuaded back in my direction.

Barbel fishing I clip up for the cast so I can land the feeder or lead in near enough the same spot, then unclip and wait. If no runs I'll clip up again and wind in so I can hit the same mark next cast.
 

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I never clip up barbel fishing and rarely did on still waters, maybe if fishing long distances for bream etc but on commercials not so much as you're not casting that far.
Most of my casts are 30 yards or less so can do it by eye most of the time.
 

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Use a bait band doubled over the line, slip this under the clip instead of the line. The band will break before the line and you can then replace the broken band for the next cast.
That’s the one, I’ll give that a try next time and see how I get on.

Of course though, you can guarantee that after banding to the clip, I’ll never catch anything big again 😂
 

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Another way which works well, especially if your reel's line clip is tight, is a piece of cotton.

Tie a loop in it and cut the ends leaving about 1cm or so tails.
Put the loop around your line and feed the tails/knot through it.
Put the knotted end under your line clip.

If you get a strong take the cotton will snap plus if need be you can also pull the tails to release the loop from the clip.
The cotton will also fit through most rod rings if you need to unclip it whereas with the bait band method if the band snaps at the clip the remainder might jam on your rings, especially towards the tip.

I use red cotton as well as it's easily visible ;)
 

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I'm going to use an elastic band or bicycle inner tube on the Tench lake I fish this year as it has a lot of big double figure Carp, one of which stripped a load of line off the reel on my first cast last time, luckily I hadn't clipped up and didn't for the rest of the day after that, it's shallow making it worse so they storm off. The Tench probably would have been fine but the Carp wouldn't. I never clip up when Barbel fishing either.
Bob Nudd uses an elastic band and ties a not on his line to mark it if a big fish pulls the line out he has a reference . Im sure many people do .
 

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Just mark the line ( cotton, pole elastic and/ or coloured nail varnish) at the correct distance, clip up, cast out and then un clip again.

Then find the marker before the next cast (may require casting the line in a different direction) reclip and repeat.

Standard practice for specialist anglers.
 

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On bream venues I'm happy to clip up, however in years gone past most of us simply cast out and used our experience and a far bank marker to gain accuracy, it worked and I'm not too worried about it because sometimes spreading the feed about isn't detrimental as some may think.

On big fish open water commercials I never clip up as it would be a recipe for disaster on some venues with Viaduct and Maver Larford Speci lakes being two venues that spring to mind.
 

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Tbf on my one experience of big water bream fishing I didn’t clip up as was buildings on the far bank to line up on and buoys in the water to judge distance. Wasn’t pin point stuff but could quite easily be fairly accurate.

I very rarely clip up on the river as it’s not a particularly long cast so can be fairly accurate anyway and you often have to search your peg anyway to get bites rather than sit on one spot. One time I’ve feeder fished a bit wide enough to be considered distance I lined up on house and where the river split around the lock island which made it easy enough to stay in roughly the right spot.
 

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On bream venues I'm happy to clip up, however in years gone past most of us simply cast out and used our experience and a far bank marker to gain accuracy, it worked and I'm not too worried about it because sometimes spreading the feed about isn't detrimental as some may think.

On big fish open water commercials I never clip up as it would be a recipe for disaster on some venues with Viaduct and Maver Larford Speci lakes being two venues that spring to mind.
At Clattercote and boddington I’d never clip up , them big munters will see you off -no problem 🤪🤪
 

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Commercial to an island or far bank on a snake lake-yes
Open water on the above-never
Open water on bream and tench lake-yes
River for Barbel-no chance, i like my rods too much
 

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Bob Nudd uses an elastic band and ties a not on his line to mark it if a big fish pulls the line out he has a reference . Im sure many people do .
I like the bait band idea, think I might try that, or just an elastic band.
 
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