Brand new to fishing - help with rod choice

mra

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Hello. I was taken out fishing with a friend for the first time in my many years at the weekend. The following day I had purchased my rod licence, permit, and was back on the river float fishing. I'd never even seen a kingfisher in real life, and saw 4 in flight as well as one across the bank on the river. Oh I caught a few fish as well! I've subsequently been watching youtube videos constantly, looking forward to next weekend.

I purchased an 8ft cheap rod for my son which I used (£40 for a whole set, rod, reel, line, net, bait, hooks etc.). Whilst it's perfectly adequate for nipping down to the river for a play float fishing, I'm keen to try feeder fishing (the permit I bought allows fishing in lakes / reservoirs) and float fishing perhaps a bit further out (cast further - I was only casting about 3m as I was surrounded by trees).

Whilst I don't want to be that guy with all the gear and no idea, I was looking at something I imagine is reasonably priced that hopefully I can buy once and that'll be it for a long time. I came across:

Daiwa Ninja Match & Feeder Reels (I thought 4012 size in the hope one day I can cast well?)
Daiwa Ninja Feeder Fishing Rods (I thought 11 foot)

I'd be interested to know if this would be ok as a "general rod" if there is such a thing for both feeder fishing and float fishing? As for the rest of the tackle, I'm hoping a friendly tackle shop will send me in the right direction.
 

Trent_Fisher

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Hi there,

In terms of looking for a rod float and feeder fishing you may struggle to find something that versatile. An Avon rod may be suitable, Angling Direct sell the John Wilson Avon rod which can be used as a float or feeder rod.
 

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For a duel purpose rod (ok @ both, master of neither) who will probably need a twin tip, these usually come with an Avon/specialist rod tag due to having a bit of backbone. As you seem interested in Diawa products, i would recommend the Black widow twin tip (in 1.5lb TC).


Or if you want cheaper the AD's own brand (advanta) do a couple....

(opt for the 1.25/quiver option)

or
(cheaper, but with a 1.6 t/c)
 

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If whoever introduced you is an experienced angler it would be as well to get them to take you to a tackle shop and advise you. Have a waggle of a few rods and a turn of a few reels to get an idea of what you are comfortable with. Then, before parting with your hard earned, have a look at the classifieds on here.

Welcome to the forum by the way👍
 

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Whilst I don't want to be that guy with all the gear and no idea, I was looking at something I imagine is reasonably priced that hopefully I can buy once and that'll be it for a long time. I came across:
Don't worry you'll fit right in here :roflmao:
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

There isn’t really a ‘one rod does everything” out there - the type of rod needed for feeder fishing has very different qualities to one needed for pinging out a feeder. They will use very different breaking strains of line and need to cope with extremely different weights when casting and retrieving.


Since returning to the sport after a 15yr layoff I bought all second hand kit - admittedly I knew what I needed and if what I found was right for me but in general you can get some great bargains and most of the newer rods are all perfectly useable, even the budget end of the market.

Reels are reels but again a float fishing reel will have different properties to a feeder reel, not least of which are retrieve ratios (how fast you can get line in) and drag systems for playing the fish.


Daiwa is a long established and trusted tackle manufacturer, likewise so is Drennan (look at their red range) with many others snapping at their heels.

Try to get into a tackle shop - personally I like a float rod of 12’ minimum and a feeder of 10’ to 13’ depending on what venues you are likely to be fishing. If the swims are overgrown then shorter rods are easier to manage whilst longer rod cast more easily in my opinion.

If you have a local/regular venue in mind have a wander and chat with anglers there to get a feel for what they use too.
 

mra

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Hi there,

In terms of looking for a rod float and feeder fishing you may struggle to find something that versatile. An Avon rod may be suitable, Angling Direct sell the John Wilson Avon rod which can be used as a float or feeder rod.
Thanks very much - there is an Angling Direct a few miles away so I'll go and check those out. May well be exactly what I'm after.
 

mra

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For a duel purpose rod (ok @ both, master of neither) who will probably need a twin tip, these usually come with an Avon/specialist rod tag due to having a bit of backbone. As you seem interested in Diawa products, i would recommend the Black widow twin tip (in 1.5lb TC).


Or if you want cheaper the AD's own brand (advanta) do a couple....

(opt for the 1.25/quiver option)

or
(cheaper, but with a 1.6 t/c)
That's great thanks - I plan to take a trip to Angling Direct this weekend and will check those out.
 

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If you are looking to float fish anything more than very occasionally I would avoid the twin top Avon rods as the quiver tip would definitely work for your feeder fishing but the Avon tip is a very long way from being a float rod and will only disappoint you if you are try to cast and control a float. My advice would be to get a float rod and a feeder rod. There are some perfectly usable budget rods on the market. I would look at something like the Preston ignition range or the Leeda concept gt range. A dedicated float and feeder rod will make life much easier and also allow you to set a feeder and float rod up at the same time
 

mra

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

There isn’t really a ‘one rod does everything” out there - the type of rod needed for feeder fishing has very different qualities to one needed for pinging out a feeder. They will use very different breaking strains of line and need to cope with extremely different weights when casting and retrieving.


Since returning to the sport after a 15yr layoff I bought all second hand kit - admittedly I knew what I needed and if what I found was right for me but in general you can get some great bargains and most of the newer rods are all perfectly useable, even the budget end of the market.

Reels are reels but again a float fishing reel will have different properties to a feeder reel, not least of which are retrieve ratios (how fast you can get line in) and drag systems for playing the fish.


Daiwa is a long established and trusted tackle manufacturer, likewise so is Drennan (look at their red range) with many others snapping at their heels.

Try to get into a tackle shop - personally I like a float rod of 12’ minimum and a feeder of 10’ to 13’ depending on what venues you are likely to be fishing. If the swims are overgrown then shorter rods are easier to manage whilst longer rod cast more easily in my opinion.

If you have a local/regular venue in mind have a wander and chat with anglers there to get a feel for what they use too.
Thanks for the advice. Where I fished (Lacock River Avon) is 5 mins away from me so I suspect that's where I'll spend most time to begin with. Perhaps some of the anglers won't mind me hovering asking what they're using! Anglers do seem a friendly bunch, as was the bailiff asking to see the fishing permit.
 

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welcome. You are in my home town. I have fished the Bristol Avon around Chippenham for over 45 years. If you need any info ask away.
The chub and roach fishing on the Chippenham Club water is great.
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Float fishing and feeder fishing are two completely different approaches, so don`t think one rod will do both jobs properly. There are many different types and makes of both versions out there, luckily, they are great value for the most part. Decide upon your budget and go shopping! Do your homework first though - i personally prefer a 13ft Waggler (float) rod, and a 12ft Feeder rod (many come with two tip options). You will easily be able to purchase both for under £100. As for reels - most do the same job (generally speaking) but a better quality reel will have more ball-bearings, and a spare spool. You will probably want to consider a free-spool `bait-runner` type reel at some point but thats certainly not needed for general feeder fishing.
 

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Your in my area too, although I’ve not fished at Lacock for a long time. There used to be a lot of big Barbel and chub down there, so you may need a decent feeder rod, and some 6 or 8lb line on the reel.
 

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I’d be looking at a float rod first as in most conditions a float will out fish feeder if you just want to catch fish rather than target anything particularly big. As to what ones it really depends on your budget.
 

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The newly launched Daiwa Matchman range of rods are getting great reviews at the moment. They are at the budget end of the market, but are said to be better than a lot of rods that cost twice as much.
 

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If you do choose Daiwa Matchman rod have a look at Leigh Tackle and Bait to see if they are still doing the following deal...

Leigh Tackle 01942 604125

Doing a deal on the new for 2022 Daiwa MatchMan rods.

Daiwa MatchMan 9ft, 10ft or 11ft Feeder - 2 tips
Or
Daiwa MatchMan 10ft and 11ft Waggler/Float

And Daiwa Ninja 3012da Reel Loaded With 4lb, 6lb or 8lb Quality Daiwa Line for £99

UK Delivery available.
 
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