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stickfloatkev

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as a mainly river angler , i cannot see the attraction of barbel except for in a match . on my local stretch of the severn , some days it looks like the sas have arrived in all their camouflage gear then they proceed to chuck gallons of bait in , then sling a massive lead or feeder into oblivion then sit/sleep in a chair behind the rods and wait for said barbel to arrive . i just cannot see the attraction , although ive caught loads whilst floatfishing for roach, chub etc . what pains me more is the question , any barbel mate . which is usually met with a look of confusion and surprise when i answer , no and i dont want one , or no but ive had some nice roach etc . also a lot of so called barbel anglers i have spoken to consider all other fish in the rivers as amongst other terms ive heard as vermin, trash . is there any logical explanation for this . dont get me wrong, a few people i know who fish for barbel work very hard on the river banks but and deserve every fish they catch but some , in my opinion shouldnt be allowed to even have a license due to the treatment of other species ive seen and heard about . rant over
 

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I fish the Severn for roach occasionally. Really want to a few times this year if I can manage it, not seen anyone else doing it.

I'm the one asking the barbel anglers, which seems like everyone else, if they've had any roach.
 

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Mark,plenty of the lads I go with have caught good size Roach on the Barbel tackle and although there is never going to be any fight they all respect the fish for what they are and appreciate how difficult it is for a fish to grow that big.
It's all about respect,appreciation and each to their own,but I guess the OP doesn't get that.
 

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I’m basically willing to give all kinds of angling a try.

Float fishing river I’m going to have to see how much I enjoy it. I know there must be something enjoyable in catching silvers on a river from how popular it is among anglers on here. I don’t really have a stillwater silvers venue that I’d enjoy. To me fishing on a commercial or most lakes and catching small roach could be quite boring but on a river more interesting.

Just got myself a 13-17ft rod from a kind member on here so might head down Stourport at the weekend! But tomorrow I’m taking my dad out to catch a Barbel tomorrow and it will be an early start due to the amount of Barbel anglers you mention likely to be about on those stretches of the Severn.

Incidentally, I always get asked ‘any Barbel mate?’ when I fish the weir on my local Stour even though they rarely show and it’s mostly big Chub I catch there.

And I also caught my biggest Roach on my first Barbel session last year.

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I like catching barbel but don’t particularly like fishing for them if that makes sense as most the time it’s a bit static and bit too like carp fishing with the heavy gear and the waiting. When stamp sized ones are plentiful I’ll actively target them but when they are not so plentiful I tend to fish a more general approach to pick up more species and hope I get a couple barbel amongst those other species.

Some barbel anglers do get a bit Carpy in their mentality and approach and in their attitudes to other fish and the anglers to target them but on the most part I find they are more rounded and approachable. Barbel don’t live around here much so I tend to just have a couple sessions a year after them when I go away somewhere with more of them.
 

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ive got nothing against anyone fishing for barbel or any other species . what i dont get is a lack of respect i have witnessed towards other species that have taken a bait meant for barbel. ive even seen a bream around 8lb kicked back into the severn and shouted at . doubt the bream understood but i did .
 

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You have started a thread dismissing and generalising Barbel anglers for having lack of respect and by doing so have shown lack of respect for the Barbel anglers who don't fit the narrow minded profile you have assigned them.
I could go tit for tat with you on the species you want to catch but that would be totally pointless and negative,
The forum doesn't need it and we all know it goes on.
 

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" Some barbel anglers do get a bit Carpy in their mentality and approach and in their attitudes to other fish and the anglers to target them"
Yes they do and you can say the same for all dedicated species anglers.

Barbel fishing can be as demanding as you want it to be and I bet I have had days trundling and working meat on the Teme where I have worked harder than you have running a float through for small fish.
 

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ive got nothing against anyone fishing for barbel or any other species . what i dont get is a lack of respect i have witnessed towards other species that have taken a bait meant for barbel. ive even seen a bream around 8lb kicked back into the severn and shouted at . doubt the bream understood but i did .

Bream are one of my favourite species so I'd love to catch one of any size on a river even when Barbel fishing. That is sad to hear that people don't handle all fish with care even if they're not targeting them.

Have you been out on the river yet this year mate?
 

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If im Fishing For Barbel and i pick up a Chub, Roach or Bream im not at all unhappy, i am if a Friggin Snakey Eel teks me bait :mad:
 

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Hi @Silverfisher - some like to catch species that pull back, others have worked hard all week and dont want a 6oz Roach every cast - they want to sit back.
Some of us like to fish many forms, methods and for various species.
Camouflage - better suited for specimen angling than some of the match clothing colours out there - designed to catch the eye of angler on next platform. 🙈🙉🙊😘
 

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I fish the Trent for Barbel (and Chub/Pike/Zander etc) and I take more of a roving approach so don't need 'all the gear'.

I think the tackle companies are driving the trend (as with other forms of angling) by marketing 'specialist Barbel gear' (or more to the point re-branding Carp tackle as Barbel tackle. "You really do NEED a Barbel Bivvy for the river and a Carp Bivvy for the lakes you know".

As I said I generally roam about but that's not for everybody. Some like to 'camp out' (or follow the trend) and be comfortable for the day. I did that for Carp in the seventies and to be honest it got boring.

At the end of the day we all fish the way WE like, whether its Carp, Barbel, Matches, Commies, Rivers etc. Each to their own I suppose.......
 

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The reason we Barbel fish is bec
" Some barbel anglers do get a bit Carpy in their mentality and approach and in their attitudes to other fish and the anglers to target them"
Yes they do and you can say the same for all dedicated species anglers.

Barbel fishing can be as demanding as you want it to be and I bet I have had days trundling and working meat on the Teme where I have worked harder than you have running a float through for small fish.
i totally agree lee . as i said i know a few barbel anglers and they work very hard and put loads of time and effort into their fishing and deserve every fish that they land . i have nothing against barbel anglers and certainly didnt mean to cause offence to you lee, or anyone else . i have nothig but respect for guys like you who work hard and catch their intended species .
 

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Personally, I admire those that seek out the Barbel, It shows they know their quarry and have studied feeding habits etc. I'm no Barbel angler so to speak, just like I'm not an out and out carper, but I do like the chance to go seek the Barbel out and watching some of the Barbel anglers at work really makes me think about my set-up when targeting them.
 

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Bream are one of my favourite species so I'd love to catch one of any size on a river even when Barbel fishing. That is sad to hear that people don't handle all fish with care even if they're not targeting them.

Have you been out on the river yet this year mate?
not since the season started due to work but hoping to get out this weekend . have you been out yet
 

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i totally agree lee . as i said i know a few barbel anglers and they work very hard and put loads of time and effort into their fishing and deserve every fish that they land . i have nothing against barbel anglers and certainly didnt mean to cause offence to you lee, or anyone else . i have nothig but respect for guys like you who work hard and catch their intended species .

I had 3 Blanks Thats nearly 500 Miles Travelled, few hundred on Bait, Fuel, day tickets, Grub etc to Get a Barbel just short of 14 pound on the 4th time down, to me it was worth it (y)
 

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not since the season started due to work but hoping to get out this weekend . have you been out yet

No but maybe be at Stourport over the weekend. My first time float fishing a big river for years! Going Barbel fishing tomorrow though lol
 

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Personally, I admire those that seek out the Barbel, It shows they know their quarry and have studied feeding habits etc. I'm no Barbel angler so to speak, just like I'm not an out and out carper, but I do like the chance to go seek the Barbel out and watching some of the Barbel anglers at work really makes me think about my set-up when targeting them.
Personally, I admire those that seek out the Barbel, It shows they know their quarry and have studied feeding habits etc. I'm no Barbel angler so to speak, just like I'm not an out and out carper, but I do like the chance to go seek the Barbel out and watching some of the Barbel anglers at work really makes me think about my set-up when targeting them.
i agree mate . some of them are ver skilled anglers and we can always learn things from each other
 
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