Barbel rod

BoldBear

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I regularly fish small rivers like the one in my avatar and although at first I used an 11ft 1.25lb Specialist rod it was often not up to the job with Barbel above about 6 or 7lb as the degree of control over the fish which is occasionally needed during the fight was seriously under gunned with a 1.25lb rod; however I found that a rod of 1.5lb or 1.7lb was ideal.

Short rods are fine when there are lots of overhanging branches; however; If there is not too many overhead branches to worry about I find an 11ft or 12ft rod gives me the ability to keep the Barbel away from near side rushes plus change the direction of pull during the fight.

In my opinion an 1.25lb test curve rod is fine when after smallish Barbel however it will not give you the amount of control thats often required during the fight that a longer 11ft plus rod will give you when a larger 6 or 7lb plus Barbel is hooked on a small river.

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Lee Richards

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"however it will not give you the amount of control thats often required during the fight that a longer 11ft plus rod will give you when a larger 6 or 7lb plus Barbel is hooked on a small river."

Nailed 👍
 

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Can't get over all this nonsense about using powerful rods to catch barbel on small rivers!
I catch them on small, average and large rivers using a float rod and have no problem controlling them.
I often use a 1lb test avon rod in hit and hold swims and it's perfect for barbel.
 

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Can't get over all this nonsense about using powerful rods to catch barbel on small rivers!
I catch them on small, average and large rivers using a float rod and have no problem controlling them.
I often use a 1lb test avon rod in hit and hold swims and it's perfect for barbel.
Exactly … for those doubting, read Kevin maddocks Carp Fever on the correct rod for hit & hold tactics. You basically want the equivalent of a giant spring!!
 

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Exactly … for those doubting, read Kevin maddocks Carp Fever on the correct rod for hit & hold tactics. You basically want the equivalent of a giant spring!!
It's as though people are frightened to put a propper bend in their rods, they seem to want a poker of a rod that only bends at the tip 🙄.
 

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Can't get over all this nonsense about using powerful rods to catch barbel on small rivers!
I catch them on small, average and large rivers using a float rod and have no problem controlling them.
I often use a 1lb test avon rod in hit and hold swims and it's perfect for barbel.

Must say I completely agree with this. All my barbel this season have been on float rods so far. Most recently a 17’ Acolyte, but also a Maver Signature Pro and Reactorlite Match 2. The Match 2 is by far the heftiest of the three, but a long way from specialist barbel rod territory. Never had any issues with any of them.

The difference as I see it is in the need for casting heavier leads and feeders as dictated by the venue, not the capture of the fish themselves.
 

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Until you know the differences in the waters its impossible to make a comparison.
There are stretches of the Teme that are glides with minimum cover and a mile downstream its a jungle.
You would be insane to approach the waters in the same way
 

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My 1.75lb rods only get used for snag fishing or heavier leads. Everything else on either a 1.25lb rod, Avon Rod, or Tricast feeder rod. All about knowing your river and being comfortable with what you use.
 

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I fished this swim a few weeks ago with a Daiwa Commercial feeder rod with a 2oz tip in it. Trundled meat all day.

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Can't get over all this nonsense about using powerful rods to catch barbel on small rivers!
I catch them on small, average and large rivers using a float rod and have no problem controlling them.
I often use a 1lb test avon rod in hit and hold swims and it's perfect for barbel.
Yeah.. people and their own opinions, so annoying.
 

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I think It largely depends on the nature of the swim and the water conditions; and catching a Barbel in one swim can be a totally different matter in another swim in my view; and that goes for when I’m trotting or legering; not to mention when fishing a feeder.

Yes you can catch and land a Barbel using a 1.25tc rod (or a lighter Tc) but there will be other times when you will be better off with a 1.5lb Tc rod or even a 1.7lb Tc rod; plus when I’m trotting as opposed to legering I find I can bring Barbel in using finer lines and because of the nature of my float rods smaller test curves and the swims themselves.

So to cover all situations I use several different rods for different situations:

A Drennan Tench Float rod or a Hardy Matchman Specialist Float rod for days when I’m trotting.
A Greys SX Prodigy 1.5lb Barbel rod for low water and on relatively snag free stretches.
A Greys SX Prodigy 1.7lb Barbel rod for stretches which are a bit more snaggy and have faster more turbulent flows.
A Greys Prodigy Twin tip specialist rod with 1.5lb and 2.0lb Avon type tip sections, plus a Diawa 2lb Tc Powermesh Carp rod that I use in floodwater conditions.

I only use one rod at a time and when I’m not trotting I’m using touch Legering and trundling.
I hardly ever (if at all) use a feeder on the smaller streams and rivers that I fish and use the smallest of weights I can get away with depending on the strength of the current.

So that’s why I have suggested a 1.5lb Tc or 1.7lb Tc barbel rod if you only have one barbel rod unless you are also trotting, and I would only be trotting if my swim was relatively snag free anyway.
That’s my view anyway, others will have different ideas I’m sure.

Keith
 
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