Avon rod and pin

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I'm thinking of buying an Avon rod and pin to Edge fish the lily beds on a pit for tench and crucian.

I don't want to pay a fortune as I'm not sure if I will like that type of setup. If I do enjoy it I will invest further down the line.

Would these be acceptable as a beginner setup? Would the reel suit the rod? Is it an Avon rod?...



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@RegalisXFM Can’t help answer your question, but like you I’ve considered one of the Advanta pins. Their video shows it quite free running and it certainly looks like an option. Be interested to follow this thread and see if anyone can give a review on it. From what I’ve read the rod length depends on venue. I think one of my existing 10 footers would work for the small river I have in mind.
 

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@RegalisXFM Can’t help answer your question, but like you I’ve considered one of the Advanta pins. Their video shows it quite free running and it certainly looks like an option. Be interested to follow this thread and see if anyone can give a review on it. From what I’ve read the rod length depends on venue. I think one of my existing 10 footers would work for the small river I have in mind.
I think I will need 12ft rod as the pit I want it for is around 6ft deep right off the edge going to 18-20ft out in the middle. 10ft out is probably the same in depth so would make anything further difficult setting the float depth on a smaller rod.

If that makes sense...
 

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I don’t know the first thing about pins but the korum all rounder does feel like a decent rod for the money. Depending on what float rod you’ve got you might be able to do the same job with the gear you’ve already got though. Well depending on the stamp of tench as well I guess!
 

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I have a guru aventus float rod, a Drennan acolyte float rod and a shimano aero x1 but they are all 10-11ft and quite light.

The tench ( well all the fish) in the pit are wild and fight like stink. Also the carp run upto the low 20s mark. I wouldn't trust the float rods I have Fishing for those fish right up against very large lily beds.

I normally use a carp rod but I'm looking for something 'middle of the road'. I fancy a pin as I have never had one before.
 

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Also would be nice to have something to use if I decide I want to try fishing a river for barbel, chub, grayling etc...
 

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Is the acolyte a carp, plus or ultra ? If its a plus or carp it should be strong enough, just strap a pin to it.
 

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I'd be inclined towards the Korum rod... original Avon's were only 10' so an 11 footer will do the job nicely... the Advanta pin is a nice one, however the bay often throws up cheaper reels from folks who have tried a pin and found it not to their liking (they are an acquired taste)
They are perfect for close range tench... nothing like seeing that float lift then slide away... good luck with your project
 

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No it's ultra. I thought I had bought the plus but it's not. I have little confidence in them anyway. Hence be buying the aventus.
 

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I've only had a wiggle of the aventus, and not sure of there action or strength, an ultra would be OK for silvers and the odd bonus 2-3lber but if fishing near snags I would definitely want something with some more backbone. After a short and brief romantic fling with a pin I can absolutely say they are an acquired taste (I did not acquire it), I would attempt to get hold of a pin and put it on a rod you already have and fish for something suitable for the rod and see if you like it before investing heavily. As arry said many angler has bought a pin only to sell it within a few weeks as they could not get on with it.
 

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On the pin front, there’s many out there for close range work. You won’t go far wrong with something cheaper than an Okuma. The Marco Cortesi job, TFG, Stillwater models, Trudex or Rapidex will serve. I favour solid arbours to reduce line kink as I don’t us the pin that often.
A John Wilson Avon Quiver is a decent choice rod wise but the prices are silly at the moment. I use a Greys Prodigy Specialist Float at 11ft with a 1lb test curve. There are many other rods in the ‘Specialist’ bracket.
 

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The biggest tip I can suggest for starting with a pin is to not try casting with it... rather pull a bit of line off the reel by looping the line over your finger and swing the float out... then feed around that spot and as you grow in confidence try a couple of loops... stillwater pin fishing is close range stuff, basically no more than a top 2 plus 2 out, if you can fish that, you can fish a pin on still water... its not a long range tactic and one of the reasons folks tend to dismiss a pin... get it right and its very rewarding
 

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On the pin front, there’s many out there for close range work. You won’t go far wrong with something cheaper than an Okuma. The Marco Cortesi job, TFG, Stillwater models, Trudex or Rapidex will serve. I favour solid arbours to reduce line kink as I don’t us the pin that often.
A John Wilson Avon Quiver is a decent choice rod wise but the prices are silly at the moment. I use a Greys Prodigy Specialist Float at 11ft with a 1lb test curve. There are many other rods in the ‘Specialist’ bracket.
How silly are the JW prices?
Three of my four Avon set ups are JW models - the other a Drennan.
 

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I've only had a wiggle of the aventus, and not sure of there action or strength, an ultra would be OK for silvers and the odd bonus 2-3lber but if fishing near snags I would definitely want something with some more backbone. After a short and brief romantic fling with a pin I can absolutely say they are an acquired taste (I did not acquire it), I would attempt to get hold of a pin and put it on a rod you already have and fish for something suitable for the rod and see if you like it before investing heavily. As arry said many angler has bought a pin only to sell it within a few weeks as they could not get on with it.
I want something a little longer than what I have as the water is deep. Also something between a float and carp rod. £60 for a rod and £60 for a reel I can live with if I don't like them
 

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How silly are the JW prices?
Three of my four Avon set ups are JW models - the other a Drennan.
Have a look on the bay. I sold one of my JW Travel AQs for just under a ton before Chrimbo…
 

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Rather than an Avon rod I would look at specimen or stepped up float rods in 12, 13 or 14ft lengths, something like a Normark Avenger, Fox Match FX+, Map Carptek, Daiwa SR3 etc as they are designed for the job you are looking to do. Unfortunately most of these are now discontinued although Daiwa still do XP versions of some of their rods. Another alternative could be the Darent Valley rods marketed by the tackle box, they have power float rods in the range and the quality of the rods is really very good, every bit as good as mainstream manufacturers products costing much more. They also do them in kits with reel and line included which saves a bit of cash. Definitely worth a look.

 

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I got my Greys TXL 1.25lb 12’ Twin Tip when it was on offer for around £70 if I remember right. That’s my Tench rod and I’d consider Greys rods again on the back of that but I’m not a pin user.
 
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