Anglers to challenge Brexit bait ban

Rick123

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So let me get this right if I wanted to fish in France I could not take baits with me that were originally manufactured in Belgium because they would be against EU regulations...... So how did they manage to get them through EU customs to sell in the UK.
As has been said a case of certain customs officers acting like knobs....
I do hope that UK customs officers are confiscating a load of packed lunches on this side of the channel.... After all we don't want any dodgy food entering our food chain do we?
At times we can be too nice, agree we need to give them a bit of their own medicine. Lets only eat English bacon (amazing quality not water injected) and say sod the Dutch. Let's drink Australian, New Zealand and chilean wines, sod France, Germany. Lets eat our wonderful lamb from Wales and stop the big footprint of buying from New Zealand. Stand up for ourselves and stop looking backwards.
 

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There isn't one strong enough mate 🤪 and even if there was it will be subject to new legislation to get it here under the new rules and then the price of the prescription would be £20 due to Brexit and all that la la la la la...😂
@Dave
I'm not French. I was only fooling. Thought I'd get Rudd squirming a bit. Which he did slightly 👍🏻😃
He's now embarrassed to be French (we understand) 😇
Thing is French Customs are being right A holes.
No issues for freight on Holland and Belgium routes.
 

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At times we can be too nice, agree we need to give them a bit of their own medicine. Lets only eat English bacon (amazing quality not water injected) and say sod the Dutch. Let's drink Australian, New Zealand and chilean wines, sod France, Germany. Lets eat our wonderful lamb from Wales and stop the big footprint of buying from New Zealand. Stand up for ourselves and stop looking backwards.
You have contrdicted yourself there re New Zealand! 😉
 

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It’s probably cheaper to buy abroad anyway because they don’t have to pay the “ their stupid enough to pay it so we’ll charge it” tax
Seriously? It probably is cheaper to source it abroad😂😂
 

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how do these regulations fit in with the many Anglers that travel to Ireland , we prefer to take most with us as the prices are more expensive locally ,
 

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If it's ROI and as they are in the EU the rules will apply.
If fact it might hit their fishing industry hard as anglers might not bother.
 

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Buying when you get to the country you are fishing in makes this particular bugbear workable but If you think the EU are being tools over groundbait then you should see the degree of anal relating to something as simple as a pallet.

As of 1-1-21 all exports on wooden pallets to the EU must be on heat treated & stamped pallets - not only are they a lot more expensive than standard wooden pallets but our company has had to invest almost £12k in a pallet inverter because there aren’t enough heat treated pallets available for every UK exporter to use as a standard item & hand balling 60-70 tonnes of feed a week will end up killing our warehousemen.

The lass who does our export paperwork now has an assistant because the workload has exploded since Jan 1st.
 

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how do these regulations fit in with the many Anglers that travel to Ireland , we prefer to take most with us as the prices are more expensive locally ,
The prices are ore expensive in Ireland . Funny how on the one hand British anglers boast about how much they contribute to the Irish economy and then complain about a few extra Euro on bait :p:D
 

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This is beyond a joke. We should shut that tunnel for a start. Do we really need a tunnel connecting us to France? Can you imagine how fast the French will run down that tunnel when the Germans invade them again?
 

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If it's ROI and as they are in the EU the rules will apply.
If fact it might hit their fishing industry hard as anglers might not bother
The prices are ore expensive in Ireland . Funny how on the one hand British anglers boast about how much they contribute to the Irish economy and then complain about a few extra Euro on bait :p:D
Bit of roles reversed now I guess when the ROI doing everything the could to get funds for infrastructure funding from EU .pot and Kettle springs to mind .
 

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The Angling Trust has joined forces with bait manufacturers Dynamite and Mainline in urgently seeking clarification on Brexit ruling which will effectively ban UK anglers from taking baits with them on fishing trips in Europe.

Since the UK-EU Trade Agreement came into force on January 1st, the export of baits derived from animal produce, such as boilies, requires a European Health Certificate (EHC) to be completed. At present, the EHC for baits of this sort are under the same requirements as exporting animal feed which involves exhaustive and expensive testing, and certification from a vet. To make export to Europe cost effective, the Angling Trust believes bait needs to sit under a simpler EHC classification.

Mark Owen, the Angling Trust’s Head of Freshwater, said:

“The Angling Trust has retained active engagement with the European Commission through our membership of the European Anglers Alliance and we will continue to press the EU to facilitate this change of EHC classification.

“It is apparent, from our understanding, that the current position will impact on anglers purchasing bait in England to go fishing in Europe once Covid travel restrictions are lifted as they would have to produce an EHC if challenged. We are presently seeking clarification that our interpretation is correct and more information will follow.”

Jamie Cook, Angling Trust CEO and keen carp angler, added:

“It’s ridiculous that fishing baits for a species that is returned alive are being treated as if they were part of the food production process. I have asked my team at the Angling Trust to work with the angling trade to press the European Commission to see sense.”

The Angling Trades Association also hope to provide a briefing on the issues next week.

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Who would've thought that a long standing law for countries outside the EU's single market wouldn't apply to us now that we're not in the EU?

Crazy eh?
 

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There was a very good post on the Tackle & Guns Facebook page the other day from one of the Bait Manufacturing Companies.....................

"There seems to be many Chinese whispers in the angling community of late regarding taking bait across the border. We have obviously taken this subject very seriously and wanted to share our findings and set the story straight for some...
The fact is, we are no longer part of the EU so do not have the luxury of moving goods as freely as before, both commercially and personally,
From a bait manufacturers point of view, we must now all comply with the following:
Being an approved Animal by-product operating plant, having regular inspections from Trading Standards and DEFRA, getting our products regularly tested, storing and displaying batch records and best-before-dates, listing ingredients used and analysis on every package in multiple languages, as well as the normal 100 other things that go in hand with running a company. Although it all sounds doom and gloom, we as a company are quite happy with these new rules as it means our industry is now regulated. This means to manufacture bait we will all be on the same playing field and will put an end to the cowboys...

But more concerning to anglers is obviously the laws in taking bait for personal use to France etc. They are quite simple; any baits containing animal by-products (dairy, meat etc) are not allowed to be taken, any baits not containing animal by-products (particles) are allowed to be taken but will be restricted to 2kg...

There seems to be many who think if they have the correct paperwork they will be allowed. This is not correct. The paperwork they are referring to is an 'Export Health Certificate'. We have been completing these for years for OUR own export outside of the EU. They have to be signed off by an APHA approved Vet who will inspect the bait factory to make sure they are manufacturing to the strict criteria. They are both expensive and time consuming and cannot be done for an individual...

So it's all come to an end...? Not at all!! We can still travel and enjoy the incredible venues that Europe has to offer but now you simply have to get your bait at the venue...

We've known these changes are coming for many years so we've made sure we're up to scratch and ready for it. We've invested AGAIN in a new factory, everything shiny, new and stainless steel and so they'll be nothing for our new inspector friends to pick up on. We're registered and have all the necessary approvals. We've made sure our packaging fully complies in every EU country. Lastly, to guarantee our products do not skyrocket in price (due to the new import 'taxes'), we have set up a European Distribution Centre in Germany. This means venues can still receive our products with no additional paperwork and at no extra cost...

We appreciate that we do not stock every lake in Europe but if your yearly trip to the continent is one that choses to stock our products, you'll be pleased to know that we've made sure your bait will be exactly the same price it always has been..."
 

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Which bait company was that?
Id like to see the ingredients on the packet, but you won't ever get to know what's really in the mix.
So what is the point of having an ingredient label? Never did get that to be honest.
I have riddled ground bait off loads of times dry and found lumps of what looks like dog biscuits/cat biscuits before now. Not to mention bits of bone and other rubbish.
 
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