Advise on float rod

Thompson_2009

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Hi

I am looking to buy a decent float rod for silvers targeting big roach mostly and need some advice on a decent rod around £100

Not sure to go old school as am a old school match angler. Not sure what the new rods are like. Was looking at maybe a Drennan matchpro ultralight as i got a Acolyte ultra for bigger fish which i love but newer rods that i have seen seem to be more powerful than old school rods. Old Normarks are to pricey. Am watching a few old Daiwa's on ebay. It's not easy when you not got the rod in your hand and wanted other peoples opinions.

Cheers.
 

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If you want much less powerful than an Acolyte Ultra, you'll need to be looking at rods that were considered fairly niche back in the day. I consider the Acolyte Ultra to be a little faster actioned than my early nineties era match rods (mostly Daiwas), but broadly comparable in terms of power. In most modern rod ranges, the Acolyte Ultras would be up against most other brands lite, or light, models. Having been in the same boat, If you are looking for less powerful float rods, I'd be looking at older canal rods, possibly the variants with long spliced tips (Harrison, Tri-Cast etc).

However, before going down that road, have you actually tried your Acolyte Ultra? Have you actually found it wanting? What were the issues if you have? I'm wondering if that faster action is giving the illusion of more power meaning that you've been reluctant to try it.
 

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Hi apologies I use the acolyte ultra for big stuff, trent ect. But I won't be able to get on the river till July so was going to have a go for some big stillwater roach on the float and wanting something more delicate and forgiving about 12ft. My acolyte is 15ft which I use on the river.
 

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my personal choice would be ultralight , or acolyte ultra . depends whether river / stillwater etc
 

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Yeah looking at a Ultralight got good reviews, would have to be a used one as no one will have any in stock I doubt.
 

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Well never heard of anyone looking for something lighter than the acolyte ultra! It’s one of the very few if not the only actual silvers rod amongst the current rods that are out there. If there’s a better silvers rod out there available in multiple lengths for not silly money (suspect the high end rives might be better) I’ve not come across them and I’d be amazed if there were any as it seems perfect for silvers to me. The matchpro ultralight is if anything is slightly more powerful and not quite as quick actioned. Still a very nice rod but not as nice as the ultra for me which is lighter in weight and action and just a bit quicker and more precise.
 

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Hi

I am looking to buy a decent float rod for silvers targeting big roach mostly and need some advice on a decent rod around £100

Not sure to go old school as am a old school match angler. Not sure what the new rods are like. Was looking at maybe a Drennan matchpro ultralight as i got a Acolyte ultra for bigger fish which i love but newer rods that i have seen seem to be more powerful than old school rods. Old Normarks are to pricey. Am watching a few old Daiwa's on ebay. It's not easy when you not got the rod in your hand and wanted other peoples opinions.

Cheers.
I’m like you I prefer the older match rods. I like to use a Shimano Ultegra Response and Fast Action. There’s a 14’ on eBay at the moment I’m thinking of placing a bid or three on. Beautiful rod is the Ultegra. Way ahead of it’s time 30 years ago.
 

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Yeah I would go for a titan 2000 if money was no object. Trouble is stock is non exisistant at the moment for new stuff. Been looking at lots of options, old Tommy pickering or shakespeare boron maybe.
 

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I am not sure I would go for bigger stuff on purpose with an Ultra. Have you got the names correct? Just asking.
 

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I am not sure I would go for bigger stuff on purpose with an Ultra. Have you got the names correct? Just asking.
Ultra is fine for big rivers, I used to match fish in the 80s and 90s so not so much up with some of the lastest gear. Looking to try and catch a specimen roach so wanting a rod for lighter lines that's very forgiving.
 

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The Cadence 11 ft #1 is a stunning rod with a superb light action in fact unless I want to fish a tad deeper or further out I use mine more often the my 12 ft microlight 2000 ( which is held in very high regard as the ultimate silvers rod )
The Cadence 13ft #2 is reminiscent of somewhere between the Titan / Avenger 2000 rods I think the 13 ft #1 ought to be spot on for silvers but I’ve not tried one ( yet ! )

The older style team Normark Titan or microlight ( pre 2000 series ) do crop up fairly regularly and all lovely rods and were certainly way ahead of their time and they are not stupid monies
 

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Normark 2000s are going for big money on ebay l used to have a microlite back in the day. Most of my rods were Normark in those days. Not heard of cadance, will take a look cheers.
 

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The Cadence 11 ft #1 is a stunning rod with a superb light action in fact unless I want to fish a tad deeper or further out I use mine more often the my 12 ft microlight 2000 ( which is held in very high regard as the ultimate silvers rod )
The Cadence 13ft #2 is reminiscent of somewhere between the Titan / Avenger 2000 rods I think the 13 ft #1 ought to be spot on for silvers but I’ve not tried one ( yet ! )

The older style team Normark Titan or microlight ( pre 2000 series ) do crop up fairly regularly and all lovely rods and were certainly way ahead of their time and they are not stupid monies
The 13ft #1 is a fair bit more powerful than an acolyte ultra and slightly more powerful than a matchpro ultralight. Compared to the acolyte its less tippy and not quite as quick whilst having more power through the mid section. A good rod for silvers but not not an out and out silvers rod like the other two instead more of a light allrounder. Be interesting to see if they bring out the #0 in more than just the 15ft as that does get rave reviews for being light actioned.
 

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If you are looking for a light actioned 12ft rod I would say probably the only one that fits the bill that is currently available new will be the Garbolino essential light, but you would have to go more than your £100 budget. If you want something 13ft lighter actioned than a acolyte ultra, the only rod I could really recommend would be the Rive R waggler light but again you are looking at £275. Your best bet might be something secondhand like one of the specialist canal rods such as the tri-cast vinny Smith, image canal rod or even the silster ian Heaps canal rod, they are the ones that come up for sale more often others are the greys Dave wesson canal or the Harrison canal but they are like rocking horse poo. Another possibly more accessible option could be the Daiwa whisker kevlar light
 

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Hi apologies I use the acolyte ultra for big stuff, trent ect. But I won't be able to get on the river till July so was going to have a go for some big stillwater roach on the float and wanting something more delicate and forgiving about 12ft. My acolyte is 15ft which I use on the river.
As I said, I've been in a similar boat. I ended up with Browning Sphere Hotrods Silver Edition. It's essentially a modern incarnation of the 11/12' spliced tip canal rods of the eighties and nineties. However, like those rods, it's not available new any more. I went through an 11' Matchpro Ultralight, Drennan Crystalight and had been searching for a good Tricast/Harrison/Insight canal rod when the Sphere came along. Since then, I've also added an 11' Acolyte Ultra to the horde. The faster action is better for trotting on small rivers or becks.
 

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Hi apologies I use the acolyte ultra for big stuff, trent ect. But I won't be able to get on the river till July so was going to have a go for some big stillwater roach on the float and wanting something more delicate and forgiving about 12ft. My acolyte is 15ft which I use on the river.
If 13ft just get another acolyte ultra but at 12ft it might be worth looking at the Garbolino essential as might be able to get it a little cheaper than an equivalent lengthed acolyte. I use my 13ft acolyte ultra for stillwaters and rivers it's just as good at both, like it so much that I've recently got the 14ft as well. And the 11ft feeder version. The 14ft actually feels ever so slightly more powerful than the 13ft lower down the blank (might be wrong not used it properly yet) so you might find the 13ft is lighter actioned than your 15ft.
 
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