What species would you call this? Goldfish?

Zerkalo

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Caught from my local river! I'd hooked it before and lost it but got it in today. To me it looks like a standard GOLDFISH. The kind someone would have had as a pet or in their pond and then dumped into the river. Fairly sure it's not a koi or an orfe. Bit of damage to the mouth but otherwise a lovely fish. If it is just a goldfish from a pond, what would you call it? A Goldfish?
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Maybe. The golden orfe I catch from commies look a bit different to me. I reckon it's an unwanted pet. Didn't think there'd be many golden orfe in there!
 

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Maybe. The golden orfe I catch from commies look a bit different to me. I reckon it's an unwanted pet. Didn't think there'd be many golden orfe in there!
I must admit it does look more like a goldfish. I think you are right that it is probably an abandoned pet.
 

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Yeah I'm just looking at pics for comparison and I think the yellow eye and dorsal fin give it away as an golden orfe. First time I've caught one from a river though. You can see it from a mile away circling round and round this weirpool.
 

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No worries Total. Was pleased to at least get it in this time as it slipped the hook just a few days ago. Sure there's only one in there so must be the same one.
 

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Nice fish! I like the way on lakes they come in so easily, like proper ornate little specimens. This one had a bit of weight behind it in the main flow of the pool, I'd say close to 2lb.
 

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Here's one from the clubs waters, and no, they aren't stocked..


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i would call it a commie where I've been catching golden orfe on a lake but in reality it's just one well stocked (good variety but still loads of carp) and maintained pool. My record orange koi was about 15lb from a place called Lavender Hall about 15 years ago.
 

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There's an easy way to tell golden orfe from a goldfish; the lateral line scale count, as on this fish which is a golden orfe, is high 50s/low 60s, and on a goldfish high 20s/very low 30s.
 

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That makes sense. It's also just dawned on me, they like to stock golden coloured fish around here as it's the black country/staffordshire. So everything is Wolverhampton Wanderers and Sandstone. A lot of the wildlife around here like the butterflies and insects are even gold coloured because of the sandstone. Sounds inane but it's mindblowing to a brummie.
 

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Its definitely a golden orfe the ornamental version of the Ide also come in blue.
You can tell straight away by the fins as goldfish have a long dorsal fin with many rays like a carp or crucian but an Ide/orfe is more like a roach much shorter.
 
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