Sonubaits expander pellets

Poacher Pat Felstead

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Greetings and salutations fellow maggot murderers.
I recently purchased some expander pellets. They recommend soaking over night however I seem to be having a few issues with them.
I find if I soak them over night they are too soft to stay on the hook and I miss loads of bites, as in I strike and there's nowt there.
So I started soaking them an hour or so before fishing. They do appear a bit firmer, stay on the hook better and didn't miss so many bites. I drain off the water straight away. However I find that after a couple of hours they've gone very soft again I struggle to keep them on the hook and lose them when casting with a waggler.
I've been using a daiwa powermesh 1.25lb rod. I thought maybe it was too stiff action so changed to my match rod. I found I did hit more bites however the venue I've been fishing is a wild tench venue with weed and snags and I really need to be using the stiffer rod etc
Finally I tried the sonubaits hooker pellets, they are great for staying on the hook and casting however the fish aren't so keen on them compared to the expanders.

Any advice guys? Thanks in advance
 

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I only use them on the pole, I soak overnight in the fridge and never had a problem with them staying on the hook or going to soft during a days fishing . I leave them in a small amount of water. They do come off on the strike sometimes but caught plenty on them. I sometimes have a problem with small fish pecking them causing slight indications but just wait for a positive bite.
 

Poacher Pat Felstead

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I only use them on the pole, I soak overnight in the fridge and never had a problem with them staying on the hook or going to soft during a days fishing . I leave them in a small amount of water. They do come off on the strike sometimes but caught plenty on them. I sometimes have a problem with small fish pecking them causing slight indications but just wait for a positive bite.
I think a lot of my missed bites were smaller fish and I think the frustration is knowing every time I wind in there's no bait on the hook. In turn I then start to panic that perhaps the bait has come off on the cast.

I very really fish pole although I can see that these pellets are perfect for pole fishing.
 

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I do mine in the fridge overnight and have found using a “quick stop” with a needle ok to hair rig them, as long as you are not casting too far.

I’ve used them to around 30metres ok on a cage feeder rig.
 

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I use the Sonubaits expanders and don't have a problem. On the morning of fishing I tip some into a cleaned out 1pt plastic milk bottle add water and screw the lid back on and that's it. By the time I start fishing 3 hours later they are fine.
 

Poacher Pat Felstead

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I use the Sonubaits expanders and don't have a problem. On the morning of fishing I tip some into a cleaned out 1pt plastic milk bottle add water and screw the lid back on and that's it. By the time I start fishing 3 hours later they are fine.
I think my problem is a mixture of 2 things. 1 I soak mine the night before and 2 I use a stiffer action rod.
Next time out I'm going to soak some before I leave bit just enough to last an hour or so and then I'll soak some more an hour into the session.
 

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I've been using these for the last half dozen or so fishing trips & started off doing really well with them. However, my last three trips have been disastrous when I've arrived at the bankside & the pellets had become too soft & crumbled when I hooked them.
1. My mate told me to pour boiling water on them - disaster, they disintegrated.
2. I soaked them at 6pm the previous night & they were too soft when I arrived at the lake.
3. I soaked them at midnight but they were still too soft.
Finally discovered what I've been doing wrong.....I've been using a maggot box with holes in the lid & air has got in. Just watched a video on preparing them & you're supposed to put them in an AIRTIGHT container. Thinking back to the first couple of times, I used a different bait tub. A guru one designed for pellets.
Stupid pillock
 
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I've been using these for the last half dozen or so fishing trips & started off doing really well with them. However, my last three trips have been disastrous when I've arrived at the bankside & the pellets had become too soft & crumbled when I hooked them.
1. My mate told me to pour boiling water on them - disaster, they disintegrated.
2. I soaked them at 6pm the previous night & they were too soft when I arrived at the lake.
3. I soaked them at midnight but they were still too soft.
Finally discovered what I've been doing wrong.....I've been using a maggot box with holes in the lid & air has got in. Just watched a video on preparing them & you're supposed to put them in an AIRTIGHT container. Thinking back to the first couple of times, I used a different bait tub. A guru one designed for pellets.
Stupid pillock
Little plastic food boxes, clip lock 3 for a £1 from Home & Bargain, just the ticket!
 

Geoff P

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I use those, they're spot on. Also good for adding flavours/colours.
Pump the pellets until they sink. Place in a small plastic food box and cover with flavouring (I use coconut or red krill), seal the box and place in fridge. After a couple of hours give the box a shake, recover the pellets with flavouring and put back in fridge. Shake often but keep them in the fridge until you use them. After a session I cover the pellets with flavouring and put the box back in the fridge, have had pellets last me three weeks this way.
 

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The Sonubaits pellets mostly sink without the use of the pump at all just wet them with cold water in the morning before you use them to soften them enough for the hook.
 

Poacher Pat Felstead

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Hi all, just a follow up on my sonubaits pro expanders.
I bought some pellet soak by dynamite baits. I mixed it 50/50 with water and it worked great. the pellets stayed on the hook, in fact I had a couple of casts with a single pellet.
 

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Not wishing to hijack the thread but it seemed like it would be appropriate to add this here.

Anyone using Lava Rocks to colour the pellets? I’m unsure of the amount to use, for say 40-50 pellets. I’m not seeing all the crystals dissolve and the water is thickening which I don’t think is helping the pellets take on the colour too well.

I’m using a 500ml airtight container that’s less than half full of Sonu Pro’s of various sizes, and filled with water.
 

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In the recent video by Des Shipp he uses about half a cad pot of Lava Rocks in around a pint of water.
 

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I use the pro expanders as well as those that need a pump first. Try putting as many as you need in a small plastic bag. Work them all into one corner at the bottom. Add enough fluid +/- flavouring to just about cover them. Then tie up the bag tight to the pellets and freeze or leave in the fridge overnight. Perfect firm expanders next day. They also keep to their original size.
 

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tried the 6mm yesterday, soaked them overnight in a tub left in the fridge, no issues with them and found them to be better than the ringers 6mm and they stayed firm for the few hours was fishing
 

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Best thing to do with the Pro Expanders is to put some cold water in a fridge overnight so that its ice cold before you put the pellets in it. Then drop your pellets in so that they are well covered. Place back in the fridge overnight and you will have perfect exioanders. The very cold water ensures that they expand very slowly and therefore prevents them splitting.
 

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I also find if you freeze any you have left over they become slightly more rubbery and stay on the hook even better
 

mimississ

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Add gelitine to boiling water.. Leave to cool.. Add pellets and gel mixture to an airtight plastic bag... Leave in fridge overnight... Perfect rubbery hookers 👍
 

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