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Arry

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shoot em inna face....!
 

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I agree withMartin22. If they are armed and want to rob you, I would let them. Are you really prepared to die for a fishing rod?
I would also be cautious about the weapons, unless you have been trained to use them in a combat situation. They can very easily be taken from you and used against you. If you try to stab someone and fail, you would be in a lot more serious trouble than you might have been.
 

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Has the world really turned as sour as some of you seem to suggest?
Maybe I am just lucky, I fish the Broads and Rivers of Norfolk & Suffolk, in almost seventy years of angling I have yet to encounter any such threats.
What would I do if I did? Not much I suppose! A whistle might alert nearby folk who might be minded to wade in and help me. Violence is probably not the answer.
 

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In some places Pete...yes!
Obviously not everywhere and its probably more of an 'urban' problem than some of the nice places we frequent.
But its not unknown these days and sad to say prob more more for entertainment than 'gain'.
An idea I did come up with was to use of my GoPro cameras, suitably cammed up and not right where Im sitting, at least then the police might have something other than my gibbering after the fact.
 

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Motion activated trail cameras? Finished in camo of course. Cheap enough these days.
 

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I see this is an old thread but has attracted recent comments . Its very sad that people have to worry about this type of thing at all but it seems sitting quietly on a bank somewhere doesn't remove the threats we all have around us these days . In truth I think the risk is very minimal . Social media means everyone gets to hear about every incident which breeds fear in everybody although the likelihood of it happening remains tiny . Its a bit like the fact we are all incredibly wary these days of letting our kids play out more than ten yards from our gate or letting them walk home from school alone due to the perceived increased threat from those who would abduct harm or murder them The truth is such crimes against children have hardly risen at all in prevalence over the last 30 or 40 years and most of us here I am sure roamed far and wide playing out as kids and walked often significant distance to school without an adult and without incident.
In any case I have to agree with what one or two others here have said here ... your gear is not worth your life so if the threat looked serious let the assholes take it . I am able bodied currently and have a dubious temper unfortunately so would find it difficult to practice what I preach especially with access to the usual weaponry lying around on the bank as part of our sport...... nevertheless I do believe the best advice .. and the advice I have always given my wife and kids .... is if you are being mugged for phone/money /whatever ... give it to the perpetrator do not get into a violent confrontation if you can possibly avoid it ... no goods are worth serious injury or worse.
 

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I agree that your gears not worth dying for, however expensive!
But kinda misses my point, that said r-soles arent that interested in it, the simple joys of verbally torturing some old bloke into a heart attack is much more fun, especially when theres little chance of punishment should actually get caught (fat chance).

This week we have had some tit stab a passing older bloke on the city river walkway, now that areas not usually deserted, where we fish does tend to be quiet for obvious reasons. But Im happy that the post caused some discussion and a touch of light humour.
 

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If some little dog's pizzle wants my gear with the threat of violence, he better know how much of his own pain is he willing to endure
 

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I see this is an old thread but has attracted recent comments . Its very sad that people have to worry about this type of thing at all but it seems sitting quietly on a bank somewhere doesn't remove the threats we all have around us these days . In truth I think the risk is very minimal . Social media means everyone gets to hear about every incident which breeds fear in everybody although the likelihood of it happening remains tiny . Its a bit like the fact we are all incredibly wary these days of letting our kids play out more than ten yards from our gate or letting them walk home from school alone due to the perceived increased threat from those who would abduct harm or murder them The truth is such crimes against children have hardly risen at all in prevalence over the last 30 or 40 years and most of us here I am sure roamed far and wide playing out as kids and walked often significant distance to school without an adult and without incident.
In any case I have to agree with what one or two others here have said here ... your gear is not worth your life so if the threat looked serious let the assholes take it . I am able bodied currently and have a dubious temper unfortunately so would find it difficult to practice what I preach especially with access to the usual weaponry lying around on the bank as part of our sport...... nevertheless I do believe the best advice .. and the advice I have always given my wife and kids .... is if you are being mugged for phone/money /whatever ... give it to the perpetrator do not get into a violent confrontation if you can possibly avoid it ... no goods are worth serious injury or worse.
Yeah, reading through these comments is concerning, Though I'm with you that the risk is probably very minimal. Don't get me wrong, I've heard stories of people being robbed of their fishing gear, in bigger cities especially but I've never actually known anybody who's been mugged in such way where I'm from, But then I live in a small town where everybody knows each other so getting away with such a crime isn't an easy feat, Especially with our bored local police force who have nothing better to do than invest their time into such a crime. I think I speak for us all when I say we've encountered some shitty kids at the local ponds or rivers but they're usually all mouth, As soon as you show any resistance they just bolt.

I think some decent advice has already been laid on the table for people actually concerned about this happening, Especially for the older or disabled folk. Having a buddy, Minimal gear & keeping your gear close by to prevent any hit and run tactics the little buggers might try - lol.

Like you, I'm able bodied with a temper if pushed and as much as it hurts to say also, I agree on the basis that you should probably just give up your rod on the basis that a group of thugs pull up demanding it, Especially if they're forcing the matter with any type of weaponry. A set of gear certainly isn't worth the risk of being seriously hurt. People these days are fools - I wouldn't put it past 1 of a group of 4 fools to stick you with a knife without thinking straight these days.

If you're on the bank another thing I'd consider is just throwing your gear in the water rather than handing it over. Might sound pretty stupid but are they seriously going to jump in the pond or river after it? Are they really going to assault you over clearly lost gear providing the situation hasn't already escalated to a super heated point? It'd be easy to retrieve a thrown in rod and reel with a bomb on another rod, Wouldn't be hard to find a seat box either with a pair of waders in most cases. Might lose a few bits due to rust, Reel might be screwed also but atleast you're not losing the entire set. lol.
 

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Why?
I think we are seeing the rise of an 'element', not so much feral or criminal as we know it. But incapable of acting within the guidelines we set ourselves over the past couple of centuries. They are answerable to no one and they know it, mummy suffers badly from 'not my lad' syndrome and daddy is all pee and vinegar when defending his off-springs right to do as he pleases.
All this titsy-farty approach to life is certainly not teaching them to be MEN!
Grown men dont sit behind a £1000 mobile phone and play games.
Grown men dont spend summer dressed as Bart Simpson.
Our game...the fishing...is about all we really have left of being that man from times past. It would appear to be men of the same ilk in here, if we go by the total lack of cat-calls etc.
 

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thats why i only fish commercials but if i see somebody that looks dodgy get your catapult in hand aim for his nether regions that way you won`t kill him
 

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Something like this might help and is perfectly legal to carry in fishing tackle. A smart crack across the collarbone is likely to take their mind off stealing.

 

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While I too am anti-violence, how do you know they will not go further than just taking your stuff? What if you feel your life is in danger, half these kids doing this are on something, out of their heads. Just maybe you have to get in first, I really don't know its a bit scary just to think about it? I do have these, but no excuse to carry them apart from visiting the range? c6c37e04d34e898d8d768e14c269312e.jpg IMG_0655.JPG 57200801_355972785014656_4440068823315382272_n.jpg 52941727_2506428156308110_4663722961717428224_n.jpg IMG_0671.JPG
 

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While I too am anti-violence, how do you know they will not go further than just taking your stuff? What if you feel your life is in danger, half these kids doing this are on something, out of their heads. Just maybe you have to get in first, I really don't know its a bit scary just to think about it? I do have these, but no excuse to carry them apart from visiting the range? View attachment 32776 View attachment 32777 View attachment 32778 View attachment 32779 View attachment 32780
Seems perfectly reasonable to carry them all to me . You never know when you might have to open a letter or something
 

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Pays to be careful nowadays. I always have something to cut my luncheon meat up - usually a Buck 112 - when I’m fishing on my own, which is all the time. When I’m away in the van I carry a small axe & my issue Martindale No.2 - for wood cutting duties obviously. If any idiots are on the site which I favour, which is very rare, I usually have a 20 minute sharpening session of said items in full view. Can’t say I’ve ever had a problem.
 

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Having been mugged for my tackle in my teens have for last thirty years had a small rounders bat in my carry all.small enough to hide bit light and strong enough to crack a knee cap.fortunately only had to show it to a potential thief once..they got the message no bruises required.
 

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This was a few years ago at a local pond -

 

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if they want to rob me that bad and they have a weapon then they would rob me! if i have a weapon it just means they can use theirs so i do not believe in arming myself, my fiancee was in bed asleep and had two burglers broke in at 2am a couple of weeks ago and she screamed till they pointed a gun at her, she then tried to grab a knife so they beat her about a fair bit before they took all they could and she thought she was going to die after trying to grab the knife.

its all well and good saying you will do this or do that but until it really happens no one knows and no life is worth any possession, we have one life but possessions can be replaced, listening to her calling me at 4am in bits and not sleeping for 3 days because she was too scared and still having nightmares now is the worst thing ive ever had.

best you can do is deter them with security lights, cameras or dogs, if you make it hard for them they will generally find a easier target, if im mugged in teh street, fine take what you like, i can replace it, no point risking a serious injury or death just for a item i own
 
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